*USA/Canada* Tobacco Laws and Taxes By State

[snusgetter]

That is tarded... although You have a few shops in Mass that sell it.. and TONS in the NE state region that does-- Not sure exactly WHERE you are in Mass... but I do know that you have way more stores that stock The General in a 150 mile range then I do... I have ZERO-

http://www.generalsnus.com/ register and check the locate ( I am going to assume you have done this already.. just making sure)

It kills me to think that a 1lb package costs 15+ dollars to ship from PA... and $30 from overseas... When even BEFORE the stupid crap law passed --- UPS EXPRESS 2 DAY WORLD WIDE was only $23... The law passes.. They get a monopoly... and they Jack the shit out of their fees...

Yet another example of Privatization raping us.

"You have a few shops in Mass that sell it.. and TONS in the NE state region that does"

" register and check the locate ( I am going to assume you have done this already.. just making sure)"

"I do know that you have way more stores that stock The General in a 150 mile range then I do"


It's so easy to look at an online listing and say "Wow, look at all the locations where you can get......"

Mind you, I haven't visited that site since they've insisted on registration but numerous visits prior to then told me

• The site really had nothing you couldn't find elsewhere, and in more depth
• Their dealer database was woefully inadequate, at least for Taxachusetts and the surrounding areas (most of the shops listed for my zip code were located in and around Boston, an area I avoid like the plague due to traffic ccongestions that not only make your blood boil but put blood pressure on a never-ending upward spiral)
• The shops that were listed, according to persons who actually contacted them, had little or no stock. What was available was reportedly so out-of-date that the management just gave away what was available (dust and all)
• It seemed the site was thrown together and left to wither

Yes, it seems the grass is always greener on the other side.


"Yet another example of Privatization raping us."

You want rape ..... wait til they privatize USPS in 5-10 years!!

[dreed2]

You check crossing the border to NH, NY, Conn? They are all around you... I had to check because I am jealous.. lol

They aren't all around me because I live way out at the end of Cape Cod, which is sort of an island with only two bridges connecting it to the rest of Massachusetts. The traffic on those bridges is a nightmare in the summer when all the tourists are here. You just sit in it for hours and hours. People get out of their cars and get stuff out of their trunks on the highway because nothing is moving anyhow. I can't afford a helicopter, either, LOL.

[Choice]

You check crossing the border to NH, NY, Conn? They are all around you... I had to check because I am jealous.. lol

[dreed2]

That is tarded... although You have a few shops in Mass that sell it.. and TONS in the NE state region that does-- Not sure exactly WHERE you are in Mass... but I do know that you have way more stores that stock The General in a 150 mile range then I do... I have ZERO- General is Swedish Match and... well it may not be your particular brand.. The General is mighty fine stuff as is most Swedish Match snus that I have tried...so if they have The General chances are you can get your fav if you ask nicely.

http://www.generalsnus.com/ register and check the locate ( I am going to assume you have done this already.. just making sure)

It kills me to think that a 1lb package costs 15+ dollars to ship from PA... and $30 from overseas... When even BEFORE the stupid crap law passed --- UPS EXPRESS 2 DAY WORLD WIDE was only $23... The law passes.. They get a monopoly... and they Jack the shit out of their fees...

Yet another example of Privatization raping us.

Nearest place that sells General is well over a two-hour drive from where I live, depending on traffic, and they charge $7.99 for one tin of it, which is insane. I could have them ship it to me, but then I'd have to add the UPS fees on top of getting raped on the price in the first place. Can't afford it.

Sorry that you can't find it where you live, either. I'm sorry that our troops can't get it, too. This whole thing is a mess, just because of a stupid law that never should have been passed.

[Choice]

That is tarded... although You have a few shops in Mass that sell it.. and TONS in the NE state region that does-- Not sure exactly WHERE you are in Mass... but I do know that you have way more stores that stock The General in a 150 mile range then I do... I have ZERO- General is Swedish Match and... well it may not be your particular brand.. The General is mighty fine stuff as is most Swedish Match snus that I have tried...so if they have The General chances are you can get your fav if you ask nicely.

http://www.generalsnus.com/ register and check the locate ( I am going to assume you have done this already.. just making sure)

It kills me to think that a 1lb package costs 15+ dollars to ship from PA... and $30 from overseas... When even BEFORE the stupid crap law passed --- UPS EXPRESS 2 DAY WORLD WIDE was only $23... The law passes.. They get a monopoly... and they Jack the shit out of their fees...

Yet another example of Privatization raping us.

[dreed2]

Not a matter of time!

Today's witch hunts are disguised as government-sponsored attacks bordering on terrorism, hidden behind the cloak of do-goodism.

Religion itself has taken a backseat to overt fanaticism of a more insidious nature: to preserve the sanctity of ___________.

Just name your poison, find a politician to blackmail (or brainwash), set up your lobbies and fill them with powerful lobbyists, and you have thus created your very own political control.

You are now the puppetmaster. As long as your puppet strings don't get sliced up by a rival, or become entwined by dissent within your group, you are omnipotent and the master of all!

And by all means, these days especially, make sure it's for the children!

WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY NO

Yes, but it all comes down to getting more money from us, in the end. The whole idea of the PACT act wasn't to prevent underage children from getting tobacco products. That's the job of their parents! Anyone who believed that is a moron. The whole idea of it was so that they could CONTROL it in order to get more taxes out of us. They did it to stop people from buying tobacco without paying state taxes. Snus users got caught in the firestorm. I'm willing to pay taxes on tobacco, but now I can't even do that, living in a banned state. So they're forcing me to either going back to buying cigarettes or doing something illegal. I don't want to do something illegal and I don't want to smoke, but it's a lose-lose situation no matter how I look at it.

[snusgetter]

I know, I just hate being the bitch.

I saw the most ridiculous thing I have ever saw the other night. I was watching a rerun of a David Blaine special, he was in New Orleans going around doing magic for people. He was at the homes of some Cajuns and one of them was smoking. The smoker took a drag of his cig and then a large blur bubble appeared over his mouth blocking the view of the smoke exiting. I just said, "You have got to be f***ing kidding me! Are they serious?" So apparently seeing smoke exit someone's mouth now is as offensive as seeing the hint of ass crack (which if you notice now are also all blurred out).

It's only a matter of time before we are back to this: http://school.discoveryeducation.com.../religion.html

Not a matter of time!

Today's witch hunts are disguised as government-sponsored attacks bordering on terrorism, hidden behind the cloak of do-goodism.

Religion itself has taken a backseat to overt fanaticism of a more insidious nature: to preserve the sanctity of ___________.

Just name your poison, find a politician to blackmail (or brainwash), set up your lobbies and fill them with powerful lobbyists, and you have thus created your very own political control.

You are now the puppetmaster. As long as your puppet strings don't get sliced up by a rival, or become entwined by dissent within your group, you are omnipotent and the master of all!

And by all means, these days especially, make sure it's for the children!

WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY NO

[CoderGuy]

ONE WORD:

CONTROL

I know, I just hate being the bitch.

I saw the most ridiculous thing I have ever saw the other night. I was watching a rerun of a David Blaine special, he was in New Orleans going around doing magic for people. He was at the homes of some Cajuns and one of them was smoking. The smoker took a drag of his cig and then a large blur bubble appeared over his mouth blocking the view of the smoke exiting. I just said, "You have got to be f***ing kidding me! Are they serious?" So apparently seeing smoke exit someone's mouth now is as offensive as seeing the hint of ass crack (which if you notice now are also all blurred out).

It's only a matter of time before we are back to this: http://school.discoveryeducation.com.../religion.html

[snusgetter]

That IS interesting. I have seen similar statements. The problem we face is from the *&(^^^&%^%%$&(**&&^ anti's and they're trying to ban all nicotine and tobacco products regardless of their benefit (i.e. snus being 99% safer and helping people quit smoking). Like all fanatical groups the (*&&*#@@)($*$&&# anti's don't want to listen to or care about facts, they just want to try and scare the uninformed as much as possible (which they succeed in). And the #$&&%*@(^^#@*& politicians and groups that support them do so only because they feel guilty if someone views them as "not caring about the &$*(#$^^#&@*^%^$ children".

<sigh> ok I'm done lol

ONE WORD:

CONTROL

[dreed2]

That IS interesting. I have seen similar statements. The problem we face is from the *&(^^^&%^%%$&(**&&^ anti's and they're trying to ban all nicotine and tobacco products regardless of their benefit (i.e. snus being 99% safer and helping people quit smoking). Like all fanatical groups the (*&&*#@@)($*$&&# anti's don't want to listen to or care about facts, they just want to try and scare the uninformed as much as possible (which they succeed in). And the #$&&%*@(^^#@*& politicians and groups that support them do so only because they feel guilty if someone views them as "not caring about the &$*(#$^^#&@*^%^$ children".

<sigh> ok I'm done lol

Amen, brother! That's all I have to say. Well, maybe not because this persecution of those who need nicotine is totally insane and is definitely unconstitutional because we have a constitutional RIGHT to the pursuit of happiness in the USA. So, that's all I have to say.

[CoderGuy]

Here's an interesting article that I found.

That IS interesting. I have seen similar statements. The problem we face is from the *&(^^^&%^%%$&(**&&^ anti's and they're trying to ban all nicotine and tobacco products regardless of their benefit (i.e. snus being 99% safer and helping people quit smoking). Like all fanatical groups the (*&&*#@@)($*$&&# anti's don't want to listen to or care about facts, they just want to try and scare the uninformed as much as possible (which they succeed in). And the #$&&%*@(^^#@*& politicians and groups that support them do so only because they feel guilty if someone views them as "not caring about the &$*(#$^^#&@*^%^$ children".

<sigh> ok I'm done lol

[dreed2]

Here's an interesting article that I found.

[dreed2]

Because they want our money. OK, so I answered my own question, but they want our money even if it kills us in the process. So, here's another question, who are the bad guys in this? Just because some people need nicotine, just like some people need a cup of coffee in the morning, does that make it legal to persecute us?

[dreed2]

Man..

This is so painful...

Honestly.. I would not mind the tax if I could get it locally and not have to pay 30 bucks to UPS for shipping...

Tax's are what we pay for Civilization, I am fine with that... while I certainly think the TAX on Snus is outrageous, and SNUS which is a HARM reducing product should have a different Tax structure- The Shipping just slaughters me..

If you live in a banned state, like taxachusetts, you can't even order from UPS. I don't mind the taxes, either, and I'm willing to pay them, but I can't order it anyhow because I live in a banned state. I just don't want to smoke nail coffins anymore, but I need nicotine. Why don't they just shoot us and get it over with if we're such a danger to society? Why force us to go back to smoking and put us on oxygen machines and let us die a slow and painful death?

[Choice]

Man..

This is so painful...

Honestly.. I would not mind the tax if I could get it locally and not have to pay 30 bucks to UPS for shipping...

Tax's are what we pay for Civilization, I am fine with that... while I certainly think the TAX on Snus is outrageous, and SNUS which is a HARM reducing product should have a different Tax structure- The Shipping just slaughters me..