The PACT ACT

[lxskllr]

The latest list I have may be outdated by now:
LD
Gustavus
Taboca
Lucky Strike
Camel (JTI)
Montecristo
Romeo y Julieta
Granit
Mocca
Blå
Landströms/Gellivare
Odens
Olde Viking
Elixyr
Chaini Khaini

I think this list is at least a couple weeks old.

Landströms/Gellivare
Odens
Olde Viking

These are in. The rest are still out, including Skruf products which aren't on the list.

Edit:
All Swedish Match products are in.

[snusgetter]

Updated my list

Landströms/Gellivare
Odens
Olde Viking

These are in. The rest are still out, including Skruf products which aren't on the list.

Edit:
All Swedish Match products are in.

Thanks, I've updated my list (but I got a feelin' it'll be changin' again - and again - and...

[lxskllr]

Thanks, I've updated my list (but I got a feelin' it'll be changin' again - and again - and...

I'm sure it will. Hopefully Skruf will be in eventually for the people that like that. Any new brands that aren't SM, Gotland, or V2 probably won't be in America right away if at all.

[snusgetter]

I'm sure it will. Hopefully Skruf will be in eventually for the people that like that. Any new brands that aren't SM, Gotland, or V2 probably won't be in America right away if at all.

Yeah, I guess we're small potatoes right now compared to ... ??

[lxskllr]

Yeah, I guess we're small potatoes right now compared to ... ??

Sweden.

If snus takes off in America, I imagine our choices will grow nicely. We're a huge market the makers I'm sure would love to get into, but it remains to be seen whether snus gets popular or not. Between Camel and Marlboro ruining snuses name for dippers, and smokers thinking snus is just dip, it'll be an uphill battle.

[rollinred]

Sweden.

If snus takes off in America, I imagine our choices will grow nicely. We're a huge market the makers I'm sure would love to get into, but it remains to be seen whether snus gets popular or not. Between Camel and Marlboro ruining snuses name for dippers, and smokers thinking snus is just dip, it'll be an uphill battle.

I think snus has taken of in America. Not it the way that you might think it has but imagine this. America has a tobacco industry that is many hundreds if not thousands of years old including the natives. Smoking it and fire curing it for oral use has been the norm for those years.

In the last two years snus has become a name that the biggest cigarette manufacturers are now using in America. This is not just a trend that will decline.

The biggest problem to snus taking hold in America is that the "so called snus" is Camel, Marlboro, grand prix, trophy, etc.... there really is not a good snus that people will accept. Not to mention people do not know how to really use it yet.

What you will see is a massive increase in snus demand even in the next couple months because of Michigan banning smoking in bars and such. I already know 10 people who started using Camel snus, even though they hate it for in the bars. I gave all of them a portion of genuine snus (Ettan) that they would quit smoking all together just for that.

With more and more states banning smoking in public places the appeal of snus will be the deciding factor.

The only problem is when the liberal demmies and rino's decide that they will enact a law to ban tobacco products that people enjoy. They will call it the BATPPE ( ban all tobacco products people enjoy).

[Kahuna]

Someone posted that you can send up to 10oz. of tobacco noncommercially using the postal service,is this true?Is that just domestically,the reason I'm wondering is I'm waiting for a package from a friend in Sweden and it hasn't shown up yet.

[danielan]

No, It's within the US only. And then it has to follow a bunch of new rules.

[tom502]

If I wanna mail a small package to someone after pact, I'm just not gonna tell them what it is, and make up a return name/address.

[Kahuna]

That was my thought too.

[snusgetter]

New Mailing Rules for Tobacco Products Set for Summer

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 17, 2010

Changes to law restrict mailing of tobacco products

WASHINGTON — To comply with legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by the President, cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products will be subject to new mailing regulations effective June 29, 2010. The law, Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act, Public Law No. 111-154, was signed into law March 31.

With only a few limited exceptions, the Postal Service will no longer be allowed to accept or transport packages containing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco products. The general mailability ban will extend to cigarettes, roll-your-own tobacco and smokeless tobacco. The prohibition does not include cigars.

Shipments entirely within Alaska and Hawaii will continue, subject to certain labeling and acceptance requirements.

The law does permit infrequent lightweight shipments by age-verified adults to recipients who are at least the age of majority for purchase of tobacco. Shipments between businesses in the tobacco industry will also be permitted, as well as cigarettes sent to consumers age 21 and above for testing or public health purposes.

Most shipments will require photo identification and age verification consistent with the minimum age requirements in the locality of destination.

With the exception of shipments entirely within Alaska and Hawaii, shipments are permitted only via Express Mail and, with the exception of shipments from the United States to APO/FPO/DPO destinations, will be delivered using “hold for pickup” service at the destination Post Office.

http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2010/pr10_060.htm

The law does permit infrequent lightweight shipments -- could we be a little more ambiguous??
And I'll bet you'll get a different answer from every post office!!

PACT ACT Field Information Kit

[danielan]

The law does permit infrequent lightweight shipments [COLOR=Black]-- could we be a little more ambiguous??
And I'll bet you'll get a different answer from every post office!!

It's specified in your link.

Each package <= 10 oz. Up to 10 packages every 30 days.

[bipolarbear1968]

When I send Scotch snuff (Tube Rose, ect) overseas, I just declare it as an antique tin, in which it is.

[snusgetter]

Good catch, Dan...

It's specified in your link.

Each package <= 10 oz. Up to 10 packages every 30 days.

Can you tell I only went by the PR -- planned to read the whole thing later.
It is well worth a read, though, since anyone who wants to follow thru
should have a copy of the relevant section(s) when attempting to mail.

As a recently retired Postal Worker, <insert joke here>,
I still stand by my statement that you'll get a different answer from
every post office about one or more of the stipulations!! In fact I
just read a Postal-related news item the other day that quite a number
of Clerks have no idea what PACT is; or the general public for that matter.
It's primarily those of us who ordered by mail that are aware of PACT
(along with those well-intentioned anti-tobacco groups ).

btw, most clerks don't give a damn what you mail but there is a
list of asinine questions they are ordered to ask each customer;
of course everybody follows orders, right??

[danielan]

As a recently retired Postal Worker, <insert joke here>

I'll have to be nicer to you now.

Don't want to provoke you.

I like the instructions towards the end:

"Greet Customer"

"Thank Customer"

Etc.