Detox Diets

[precious007]

I've been looking today to find a detox diet that it's easy to go through and found a couple...

I don't want to use pills or anything that's being advertised .... (can anyone direct me?)

don't think I can go with the water cleansing ... all the way through but I can go with fruits and veggies for a few days :^)

Any recommendations ?

[devilock76]

Pretty much all detox diets are bunk.

They don't detoxify anything. The most something that is a detox diet can do is maybe reset your baseline diet. For example it works for some people to take on a temporary extreme diet that they ease up to where they want to be diet wise. But the same results would be yielded by just changing to the goal diet. Simply the "detox" is like placebo trick on your body to get you used to diet C which is better health wise than your usual diet A but feels like easy street based off of coming off of extreme diet B.

Ken

[precious007]

Pretty much all detox diets are bunk.

They don't detoxify anything. The most something that is a detox diet can do is maybe reset your baseline diet. For example it works for some people to take on a temporary extreme diet that they ease up to where they want to be diet wise. But the same results would be yielded by just changing to the goal diet. Simply the "detox" is like placebo trick on your body to get you used to diet C which is better health wise than your usual diet A but feels like easy street based off of coming off of extreme diet B.

Ken

Thanks Ken!

I was looking for an exact diet to go with...

I'm actually looking to detoxify my body completely... I've cut out all the fast-food (that was a very often habit of mine) and started eating more "natural" food.... and I though a detox of my body will help me feel healthier and BE healthier but I'm not really sure what to start off with...

I have been actually thinking many times in the past 2 years to try at least to become vegetarian ..... I don't know if I could though ...

[devilock76]

Thanks Ken!

I was looking for an exact diet to go with...

I'm actually looking to detoxify my body completely... I've cut out all the fast-food (that was a very often habit of mine) and started eating more "natural" food.... and I though a detox of my body will help me feel healthier and BE healthier but I'm not really sure what to start off with...

I have been actually thinking many times in the past 2 years to try at least to become vegetarian ..... I don't know if I could though ...

What do you think you will actually be detoxifying it of? The body is already an amazing machine that moves what we can't use out very well. There is nothing a detoxifying diet is going to detoxify you of. Naming a diet detoxifying is a misnomer, and a marketing ploy for the gullible.

Ken

[tom502]

I think just a water fast would work. Maybe do it a few days in a row, or do it intermittingly, like every other day, or half day. I'd like to do this myself, though I am more addicted to food than anything. I need a facility or rehab center for myself.

[devilock76]

I think just a water fast would work. Maybe do it a few days in a row, or do it intermittingly, like every other day, or half day. I'd like to do this myself, though I am more addicted to food than anything. I need a facility or rehab center for myself.

So you are advising him to induce starvation which will cause the body to switch it's metabolism over to survival mode where any caloric intake will be rationed to fat stores when food is reintroduced? I mean I know you are not a doctor but you should at least stop and ask, hey I wonder if they are diabetic because such advice in some cases could hospitalize someone who is.

Ken

[russki]

Thanks Ken!

I was looking for an exact diet to go with...

I'm actually looking to detoxify my body completely... I've cut out all the fast-food (that was a very often habit of mine) and started eating more "natural" food.... and I though a detox of my body will help me feel healthier and BE healthier but I'm not really sure what to start off with...

I have been actually thinking many times in the past 2 years to try at least to become vegetarian ..... I don't know if I could though ...

I've recently changed my diet drasticly, not sure if I would call it a 'detox' diet exactly... although I have noticed quite a difference.

The biggest thing I have changed it eating 5-6 meals a day that are smaller than the average meal normally eaten 3 times a day. This was probably the most drastic thing that I have done with my diet. I've also completely cut out soda's (any drink that is pure sugar), replaced them with water, and cut out fast food, while I still occasionally go out to eat at restaurants. I did this a maybe 6-8 weeks ago when I started actually hitting the gym with a nice routine planned out, and so far it has been working out extremely well. I think the biggest change was my diet, and that played the bigger role in changing my health. I definitely feel better and have more energy now, as well I am really starting to get in shape.

As for the diet, I have simply been eating better all around, fruits/veggies when I can, all whole grains, and lean/healthy foods. Interestingly enough I have not really 'craved' any of the previous foods I used to eat, including sweets. Eating more smaller meals a day seems to keep my energy up while allowing me to easily lose body fat by not allowing myself to overeat 3 times a day and allow that food to be stored away. I generally eat a meal around every 3 hours, 4 at the most. The funny thing is, I am already pretty skinny, I just look/feel better much better.

[devilock76]

I've recently changed my diet drasticly, not sure if I would call it a 'detox' diet exactly... although I have noticed quite a difference.

The biggest thing I have changed it eating 5-6 meals a day that are smaller than the average meal normally eaten 3 times a day. This was probably the most drastic thing that I have done with my diet. I've also completely cut out soda's (any drink that is pure sugar), replaced them with water, and cut out fast food, while I still occasionally go out to eat at restaurants. I did this a maybe 6-8 weeks ago when I started actually hitting the gym with a nice routine planned out, and so far it has been working out extremely well. I think the biggest change was my diet, and that played the bigger role in changing my health. I definitely feel better and have more energy now, as well I am really starting to get in shape.

As for the diet, I have simply been eating better all around, fruits/veggies when I can, all whole grains, and lean/healthy foods. Interestingly enough I have not really 'craved' any of the previous foods I used to eat, including sweets. Eating more smaller meals a day seems to keep my energy up while allowing me to easily lose body fat by not allowing myself to overeat 3 times a day and allow that food to be stored away. I generally eat a meal around every 3 hours, 4 at the most. The funny thing is, I am already pretty skinny, I just look/feel better much better.

I did a vegan "fast" from Thanksgiving to Christmas. It was actually really easy and I ate pretty well. I did it because in general meat and dairy (in the amounts I was consuming) were disagreeing with me. I figured if I could stick to it then I could make a lasting change. Now I wouldn't call it detox but let me just tell you when you add that many more veggies and legumes to your diet your uh "movements" will change drastically. I came off of it at Christmas and ate the usual christmas fare and started to feel overall worse again. So now I do my best to just avoid meat and dairy. I still eat some but try to keep it to just a few small servings a week and mostly fish or poultry. The more veggies and less meat I eat though the better I feel.

I wouldn't blanket recommend that, for me it worked well and there were signs telling me that it was worth a try. Everyone is different body chemistry wise.

Ken

[russki]

I did a vegan "fast" from Thanksgiving to Christmas. It was actually really easy and I ate pretty well. I did it because in general meat and dairy (in the amounts I was consuming) were disagreeing with me. I figured if I could stick to it then I could make a lasting change. Now I wouldn't call it detox but let me just tell you when you add that many more veggies and legumes to your diet your uh "movements" will change drastically. I came off of it at Christmas and ate the usual christmas fare and started to feel overall worse again. So now I do my best to just avoid meat and dairy. I still eat some but try to keep it to just a few small servings a week and mostly fish or poultry. The more veggies and less meat I eat though the better I feel.

I wouldn't blanket recommend that, for me it worked well and there were signs telling me that it was worth a try. Everyone is different body chemistry wise.

Ken

I'd have to agree that everyone is different... and surprisingly I have somewhat had the same situation you were in... Eating this healthier diet with more fruit/veggies and all whole grains has definitely changed my 'movements', although unlike you I actually have been eating quite a bit of dairy/meat. I suppose it is different in my case, as I have been devouring lots of protein in an attempt to gain weight through muscle. Either way, I do seem to be getting a lot more fibre in my diet. The end result is the same though, I feel a lot better than what I used to feel like all the time. As opposed to being somewhat lethargic throughout the day, I feel as though I have energy to easily do things I would previously have been sluggish to do before, if that makes sense. Generally I just feel better. I would have to attribute this mostly to eating smaller meals more often, as well as the healthier diet.

Interestingly enough, before changing my diet, I had a very serious issue with my stomach, so much so that I had to take medicine before each meal just to prevent a trip to the ER. For about 2 years prior to the diet change, if I were to eat anything (literally anything) without taking a muscle relaxer that calms my entire gut, I would have these excruciating pains throughout my stomach that left me crippled. It was never specifically diagnosed, all the doctors could say is that my entire digestive tract (from stomach on down) was reacting to the digestion of food as though it were pain, where any normal person would simply feel nothing...or at most the movement of their stomach churning the food and stomach acid. The result was the feeling of fire inside my stomach, even though it had nothing to do with the stomach acid or reflux, as I went through extensive tests that showed my stomach acid was not the problem.

After changing my diet, I have completely stopped taking medicine and everything seems to have returned to normal. It was truly amazing, I'd actually regained my life back, where before I would not eat for days as the pain was too much. I'd definitely recommend just eating healthier in general, and you will notice the change yourself.

[devilock76]

I'd have to agree that everyone is different... and surprisingly I have somewhat had the same situation you were in... Eating this healthier diet with more fruit/veggies and all whole grains has definitely changed my 'movements', although unlike you I actually have been eating quite a bit of dairy/meat. I suppose it is different in my case, as I have been devouring lots of protein in an attempt to gain weight through muscle. Either way, I do seem to be getting a lot more fibre in my diet. The end result is the same though, I feel a lot better than what I used to feel like all the time. As opposed to being somewhat lethargic throughout the day, I feel as though I have energy to easily do things I would previously have been sluggish to do before, if that makes sense. Generally I just feel better. I would have to attribute this mostly to eating smaller meals more often, as well as the healthier diet.

Interestingly enough, before changing my diet, I had a very serious issue with my stomach, so much so that I had to take medicine before each meal just to prevent a trip to the ER. For about 2 years prior to the diet change, if I were to eat anything (literally anything) without taking a muscle relaxer that calms my entire gut, I would have these excruciating pains throughout my stomach that left me crippled. It was never specifically diagnosed, all the doctors could say is that my entire digestive tract (from stomach on down) was reacting to the digestion of food as though it were pain, where any normal person would simply feel nothing...or at most the movement of their stomach churning the food and stomach acid. The result was the feeling of fire inside my stomach, even though it had nothing to do with the stomach acid or reflux, as I went through extensive tests that showed my stomach acid was not the problem.

After changing my diet, I have completely stopped taking medicine and everything seems to have returned to normal. It was truly amazing, I'd actually regained my life back, where before I would not eat for days as the pain was too much. I'd definitely recommend just eating healthier in general, and you will notice the change yourself.

The stomach issue might be part of our similar results. I have similar although less severe issues. More of an acid reflux + hiatal hernia type thing. I have an aversion to taking any type of regular pill unless there is no choice. So when they tried to put me on Nexium and it made me ill, and the prilosec derivitives weren't much better I made dietary changes. Have been. In general I already maintain a pretty healthy diet, even before the vegan experiment and veggie load. I don't get as much exercise as I would like though other than gigging and lugging music gear.

Ken

[russki]

The stomach issue might be part of our similar results. I have similar although less severe issues. More of an acid reflux + hiatal hernia type thing. I have an aversion to taking any type of regular pill unless there is no choice. So when they tried to put me on Nexium and it made me ill, and the prilosec derivitives weren't much better I made dietary changes. Have been. In general I already maintain a pretty healthy diet, even before the vegan experiment and veggie load. I don't get as much exercise as I would like though other than gigging and lugging music gear.

Ken

I actually had the same problem as that as well... similar issues taking pills. That seemed to trigger acid reflux for me too. I tried those medicines and they didn't work much at all for me either. Interesting to hear this from someone else. Wish I tried a different diet before, and more exercise, as it has helped completely resolve this issue for me.

I suppose we were the result of the American culture, guzzling trans fat by the gallon then wondering why everyone has diabetes or heart disease... just speaking in general of course.

[devilock76]

I actually had the same problem as that as well... similar issues taking pills. That seemed to trigger acid reflux for me too. I tried those medicines and they didn't work much at all for me either. Interesting to hear this from someone else. Wish I tried a different diet before, and more exercise, as it has helped completely resolve this issue for me.

I suppose we were the result of the American culture, guzzling trans fat by the gallon then wondering why everyone has diabetes or heart disease... just speaking in general of course.

Well part of the thing is I don't want to be dependent on any regular medicine. Heck it is tough enough to get me to take OTC pain meds at all (aspric, tylenol, etc.)

Ken

[charmando]

starvation mode would take about two months of zero food in a well fed human. Trust me you would know if you were truely starving, it's not the spacey feeling of not eating for a couple days either. That would be your stomach shrinking and blood sugar level normalizing. Water fasting is the best way to detoxify but its pretty much rendered useless unless you're willing to administer daily enemas. the toxic level would be too high and your gallbladder has to be relieved of bile. i think most of the diseases that modern man experiences can be cured through fasting and there are many testimonials of tumors shrinking and being eliminated through this process. not internet testimonials either ive read a couple books written by respected naturopaths. if you take this route your body still needs vitamins which could be supplemented with a chewed multivitamin.

[sgreger1]

I recently was looking to lose weight and really researched the detox diets in quite some detail.

My conclusion: None of them work. They all rely on the faulty assumption that your body is incapable of processing toxins to the point where toxins are allegedly accumulating in the body in unwanted quantities. To be clear, there are certain "toxins" (particularly heavy metals), which the body does have difficulty getting rid of, but the other 99% of shit in your body is processed just fine, it is an outright lie that there are toxins piling up somewhere that won't go away unless you do some special diet.

Bear in mind that I REALLY wanted it to work and was looking for evidence that it does work, but sadly after quite a bit of research this was my conclusion.

If you truly want to detox heavier elements like metals etc, than all you have to do is take a small amount of niacin and go exercise, your bloods cleans itself when you sweat and a MODERATE dose of niacin will assist in getting it out. This is almost 100% unecessary, but if you don't sweat a lot than you may want to go run for a while each week to allow your body to move stuff out through your pores.

NOTE: This will not make you feel better in any way, none of this will, and anything you feel is a placebo effect. Generally, jogging once in a while will do more for "toxin removal" than any diet on planet earth ever could. Additionally, jogging WILL make you feel better and give you more energy, so the reward is two fold, and it costs you nothing to do.




For those who care: After looking into all of this in hopes of loosing weight and feeling more energy, I concluded that all that really matters in the diet is that you reduce the overall number of calories you eat. Therefore, I cut out lunch, I no longer eat at lunch time. I lost about 25 pounds over the past month and I eat WHATEVER THE **** I WANT. For dinner I ate a chille relleno stuffed with cheese and a peperoni pizza, I eat like this every single day and lose weight consistently. I have to buy new pants and a new belt because I went from using the first belt loop down to the 5th and I am now cutting new holes into the belt since I got so skinny.

For those who want to lose weight: Calorie reduction. Either take what you would normally eat and cut the portion in 1/2, or cut lunch out all together. I don't even get hungry during the day so it is completely effortless not to eat lunch now, I come home hungry and pig out and I wake up in the morning skinnier every single day. If you can't cut out lunch entirely, do what I did, for the first week just eat nothing but a small salad at lunch time, it will give you enough to where you aren't hungry but will slowly train your body to not expect a meal halfway through the day, the result is that I no longer get hungry at all until after 5pm. I don't know if this is healthy, it probably is not, but it works and I am consistently keeping off the weight and eating whatever I want so frankly I do not care.

As far as toxins, your body has an elaborat and very complex system for seperating the good from the bad and getting rid of the bad. Toxins leave your body every time you pee, poop, sweat etc, some are even released when you breath. Mild exercise is all the Dr orders and you will feel better than ever and your blood will be clean. Add in a healthier diet that includes some fruit and vegetables and you will accomplish you goal my friend, no need to buy anything!

[captncaveman]

Why not just eat healthy and forget about this detox crap. Vegan? not my bag man. Just eat veggies some fruits a lot of water and delicious slabs of meat. Going from one extreme to another you will feel like shit for awhile, but thats normal. Throw in some real exercise and you will be a healthy man.