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  • sgreger1
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    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #16
    I think the largest and easiest change to make to your diet is to realize how bad soda and sugary drinks are. Replace them with water and natural juices that odn't add sugar. That will have a major effect on your weight, energy, and general well being, and water is the best detox agent, drinking more of it will work better than any synthetic substance man can make. The power of water deserves it's own book, but generally cutting out sodas will show noticeable results for most people.

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    • tom502
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 8985

      #17
      This, sgregor makes sense, and it like the ideas of Ori Hofmekler's Warrior Diet, in which one fasts, or undereats for 20 hrs, then eats basically one main meal a day within 4 hrs, this idea is also marketed as Fast - 5 where one fasts till 5pm and eats till 10pm, not constantly to 10pm but within that 5-10 window. Then Eat-Stop-Eat is another popular plan that recommends 2 days of fasting a week. Then the Alternate Day diet which is based on fasting alternately but they use a low-cal day and then an off day. There are others too, like the Half Day Diet where one just doesn't eat after 3-4pm, aka Dinner Cancelling, which seems to be well known of in Germany.

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      • charmando
        Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 151

        #18
        ye i have to say water fasting in general is unrealistic for most people and i would only suggest it if you're really struggling or already have a preexisting disease. for most of us all we need is too cut down on our animal protein intake, drink a shit ton of water, eat good unprocessed whole foods, take vitamins, and exercise. if you're incapable of running hit the sauna and drink a lot of water after. you'll actually expel more toxins this way. the reason i got into this whole detoxifying crap is because i think i had mercury poisoning because i used to eat more tuna than an orca. i would just stay away from tuna and fish now that theyre seasoned with oil and radiation.

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        • precious007
          Banned Users
          • Sep 2010
          • 5885

          #19
          Thanks guys for all the replies :^)

          I guess I'll go with water, natural juice, fruits and veggies........

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          • devilock76
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 1737

            #20
            Originally posted by charmando View Post
            i think most of the diseases that modern man experiences can be cured through fasting and there are many testimonials of tumors shrinking and being eliminated through this process. not internet testimonials either ive read a couple books written by respected naturopaths.
            Yes, print testomonials by someone selling a book and philosophy are much more reliable.

            Any chance you could say point to a peer reviewed scientific study?

            Ken

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            • devilock76
              Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 1737

              #21
              Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
              For those who care: After looking into all of this in hopes of loosing weight and feeling more energy, I concluded that all that really matters in the diet is that you reduce the overall number of calories you eat. Therefore, I cut out lunch, I no longer eat at lunch time. I lost about 25 pounds over the past month and I eat WHATEVER THE **** I WANT. For dinner I ate a chille relleno stuffed with cheese and a peperoni pizza, I eat like this every single day and lose weight consistently. I have to buy new pants and a new belt because I went from using the first belt loop down to the 5th and I am now cutting new holes into the belt since I got so skinny.

              For those who want to lose weight: Calorie reduction. Either take what you would normally eat and cut the portion in 1/2, or cut lunch out all together. I don't even get hungry during the day so it is completely effortless not to eat lunch now, I come home hungry and pig out and I wake up in the morning skinnier every single day. If you can't cut out lunch entirely, do what I did, for the first week just eat nothing but a small salad at lunch time, it will give you enough to where you aren't hungry but will slowly train your body to not expect a meal halfway through the day, the result is that I no longer get hungry at all until after 5pm. I don't know if this is healthy, it probably is not, but it works and I am consistently keeping off the weight and eating whatever I want so frankly I do not care.
              And this is all any diet really comes down to, calories in < calories out = weight loss. That simple. Any diet that gets you there you will lose weight, the diet is just a trick to get you to then weight loss imbalance point.

              Ken

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              • precious007
                Banned Users
                • Sep 2010
                • 5885

                #22
                i think most of the diseases that modern man experiences can be cured through fasting and there are many testimonials of tumors shrinking and being eliminated through this process. not internet testimonials either ive read a couple books written by respected naturopaths.
                Yep, this sounds interesting can you recommend us some book titles ?

                :^)

                Fasting is primarily the act of willingly abstaining from some or all food, drink, or both, for a period of time. An absolute fast is normally defined as abstinence from all food and liquid for a defined period, usually a single day (24 hours), or several daytime periods. Other fasts may be only partially restrictive, limiting particular foods or substance. The fast may also be intermittent in nature (see: Intermittent fasting). Fasting practices may preclude sexual and other activities as well as food.
                So sex is forbidden during fasting as well ....

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                • devilock76
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1737

                  #23
                  Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                  So sex is forbidden during fasting as well ....
                  In the context of most religion based fasts, actually yes. But the fasting discussions here are about health, not religion. Fasting for health is bs. Fasting for religion is usually a statement or test of faith, just like lent or a sweat lodge.

                  Ken

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                  • precious007
                    Banned Users
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5885

                    #24
                    Originally posted by devilock76 View Post
                    In the context of most religion based fasts, actually yes. But the fasting discussions here are about health, not religion. Fasting for health is bs. Fasting for religion is usually a statement or test of faith, just like lent or a sweat lodge.

                    Ken
                    I'm Orthodox and actually there are quite a few periods over the year when fasting as a religious act is a must, and sex is forbidden.

                    And yeah I know it's about health since... it's my thread. :^)

                    here's some benefits of fasting, for those that don't know what fasting can benefit you.

                    I'll go with fasting for a few days (but eat veggies and fruit - apples, carrots, oranges, green pepper, cucumbers, bananas, olives, nuts, and additionally some low sugar candy)

                    Benefits of Fasting
                    Mental clarity is improved and brain fog is lifted.
                    Rapid, safe weight loss is achieved without flabbiness
                    The nervous system is balanced
                    Energy level and sensory perception is increased. The longer the fast, the bigger increase in energy and vitality. You normally need less sleep.
                    Organs are revitalized
                    Cellular biochemistry is harmonized
                    The skin becomes silky, soft, and sensitive
                    There is greater ease of movement
                    Breathing becomes fuller, freer and deeper
                    The digestive system is rejuvenated and becomes more effective; the peristaltic action of the intestines (the cause of a natural bowel movement) is stronger after fasting.
                    Fasting retrains your tasting sense back to more healthy food as acute sensitivity is restored.
                    Fasting can increase confidence in our ability to have control over our lives and our appetite, and that our body is self-regulating and a self-healing organism capable or establishing balance when given the possibility to do so.
                    Normal metabolic and cell oxygenation are restored.
                    Detoxification - as soon as the body realizes that it's fasting it will begin to eliminate those things that cause disease, such as fat cells, arterial cholesterol plaques, mucus, tumors, stored up worries and emotions.
                    Example of one day fast:

                    One Day Fast
                    One way to start is to fast one day, working towards fasting regularly, one day per week or for longer periods of time. You can fast from all food, or only from solid food. You can choose a one day fast with only:

                    • water
                    • fresh fruit juice
                    • fresh vegetable juice
                    • raw fruit
                    • raw vegetables

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #25
                      Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                      This, sgregor makes sense, and it like the ideas of Ori Hofmekler's Warrior Diet, in which one fasts, or undereats for 20 hrs, then eats basically one main meal a day within 4 hrs, this idea is also marketed as Fast - 5 where one fasts till 5pm and eats till 10pm, not constantly to 10pm but within that 5-10 window. Then Eat-Stop-Eat is another popular plan that recommends 2 days of fasting a week. Then the Alternate Day diet which is based on fasting alternately but they use a low-cal day and then an off day. There are others too, like the Half Day Diet where one just doesn't eat after 3-4pm, aka Dinner Cancelling, which seems to be well known of in Germany.

                      Cool! It works good too, pretty much I try to only eat dinner, but am not strict at all. I am giving this no effort and have lost almost 30 pounds, so whether it's healthy or not it is working like a mother ****er and i'm happy as hell to have FINALLY shaved some weight. Just fast for a few days or maybe only eat 1 meal during that 2 days, then just start eating mainly at dinner time and you will drop pounds every single morning that you wake up without fail.

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                      • precious007
                        Banned Users
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5885

                        #26
                        Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                        Cool! It works good too, pretty much I try to only eat dinner, but am not strict at all. I am giving this no effort and have lost almost 30 pounds, so whether it's healthy or not it is working like a mother ****er and i'm happy as hell to have FINALLY shaved some weight. Just fast for a few days or maybe only eat 1 meal during that 2 days, then just start eating mainly at dinner time and you will drop pounds every single morning that you wake up without fail.
                        Basically you're talking about starvation.... :^)

                        The main reason you'll loose pounds heavily that way is because you're not feeding your body with protein, and it will use the existing protein in your system ....

                        I was reading earlier that a human body can leave at most 75 days with water alone, depending on your weight you might make it a bit less than 75 days....

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                        • russki
                          Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 464

                          #27
                          Originally posted by devilock76 View Post
                          Yes, print testomonials by someone selling a book and philosophy are much more reliable.
                          Whether this was meant to be sarcastic or not, I could not help but laugh my ass off

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                          • devilock76
                            Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1737

                            #28
                            Originally posted by russki View Post
                            Whether this was meant to be sarcastic or not, I could not help but laugh my ass off
                            I figured I didn't need sarcasm tags on that one, especially with the request after it and those who know me as the resident skeptic of such "alternative medicines".

                            Ken

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                            • devilock76
                              Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1737

                              #29
                              Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                              Benefits of Fasting
                              Mental clarity is improved and brain fog is lifted.
                              Rapid, safe weight loss is achieved without flabbiness
                              The nervous system is balanced
                              Energy level and sensory perception is increased. The longer the fast, the bigger increase in energy and vitality. You normally need less sleep.
                              Organs are revitalized
                              Cellular biochemistry is harmonized
                              The skin becomes silky, soft, and sensitive
                              There is greater ease of movement
                              Breathing becomes fuller, freer and deeper
                              The digestive system is rejuvenated and becomes more effective; the peristaltic action of the intestines (the cause of a natural bowel movement) is stronger after fasting.
                              Fasting retrains your tasting sense back to more healthy food as acute sensitivity is restored.
                              Fasting can increase confidence in our ability to have control over our lives and our appetite, and that our body is self-regulating and a self-healing organism capable or establishing balance when given the possibility to do so.
                              Normal metabolic and cell oxygenation are restored.
                              Detoxification - as soon as the body realizes that it's fasting it will begin to eliminate those things that cause disease, such as fat cells, arterial cholesterol plaques, mucus, tumors, stored up worries and emotions.
                              Wow that is quite a list of anecdotal observations. You don't need numbers and figures with abstracts like that to back a point.

                              I love how you quote it too, as in it is sourced from somewhere but a complete absence of the source being listed in your post. Works cited pages are for fools!!!

                              Do I need sarcasm tags this time?

                              Ken

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                              • snusgetter
                                Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 10903

                                #30
                                "Do I need sarcasm tags this time?"


                                They never hurt!
                                Oops, I forgot the citation.......
                                Wait a minute... it's around here somewhere.
                                Or maybe over there!!

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