Whoopi Goldberg Moon Denier

[Darwin]

I really really really hated the movie Capricorn One. Um huh. Yeah. You'd only need about twenty thousand people in on a scam like this. Even ten people couldn't keep a secret like that let alone thousands. If we never went to the moon how is it that can we bounce a laser off reflectors left on the moon 40 years ago? The best argument against a fake moon landing is that our government, then and now, is just too incompetent to pull off such a massive overarching mega-fraud that would require the cooperation of the Russians, the Chinese, and many many thousands of people worldwide. It is to laugh.

[sgreger1]

I really really really hated the movie Capricorn One. Um huh. Yeah. You'd only need about twenty thousand people in on a scam like this. Even ten people couldn't keep a secret like that let alone thousands. If we never went to the moon how is it that can we bounce a laser off reflectors left on the moon 40 years ago? The best argument against a fake moon landing is that our government, then and now, is just too incompetent to pull off such a massive overarching mega-fraud that would require the cooperation of the Russians, the Chinese, and many many thousands of people worldwide. It is to laugh.

Yah that's what i'm thinking. It would involve to many people. I don't COMPLETELY disregard the possibility of a hoax of some type but thusfar see no evidence in it's favor. Lots of people can keep a secret though, and routinely do. The amount of off the record projects going on at any time in the US is pretty big and these are often times operations involving hundreds or in some cases thousands of individuals. Especially back then when everyone had commie fever, it would have been extra easy to get people to be quiet about it for fear of a russian spy overhearing you and us losing the cold war. While it is hard to imagine, you would be surprised how many people can keep a secret. Just to name a well recognized black ops group that routinely keeps secrets I will reference US army special forces and the subdivisions within them. Most of the things they do are off the record, yet nearly no one speaks on it. We have overthrown entire governments without ever writing anything down that got leaked to the public, so I don't think it is necessarilly IMPOSSIBLE to keep a secret, but something like a moon mission would be absolutely mindbogglingly difficult to fake, considering the entire world's eye was on the project and the russians would have been quick to call bullshit if they could even remotely prove it.

[justintempler]

All of these scenarios are based on pre-established absolutes and do not leave room for variables. I.e., it is assumed that by torturing him you will get the information. The question is whether it's worth it or not to do that to another human being, or does it make you the bad guy. Same with # 3, it is assumed that killing the 3 will in fact save the others. It's not a question of the judging the risk/benefit of the outcome, it's about the moral dilema of the decision.

The problem is real life doesn't come with "pre-established absolutes"
While in "theory" the answers may be obvious, when it comes to a real life situation, not so much.

The moral dilemma I like is where everyone is innocent and you have to choose.
A train is going down the track, if it goes one way it kills 5 innocent people, it goes the other way it only kills one person but that person is a loved one (your wife, brother...)
You have the power to decide which way the train goes, do you let it kill 5 innocent people or the person that you love.

[NonServiam]

The problem is real life doesn't come with "pre-established absolutes"
While in "theory" the answers may be obvious, when it comes to a real life situation, not so much.

The moral dilemma I like is where everyone is innocent and you have to choose.
A train is going down the track, if it goes one way it kills 5 innocent people, it goes the other way it only kills one person but that person is a loved one (your wife, brother...)
You have the power to decide which way the train goes, do you let it kill 5 innocent people or the person that you love.

Wow! That one's a heart tugger! My honest answer and selfishness says let it kill the other 5 first. I take care of those closest to me first and foremost, or at least I try. But then I guess you could say I am a murderer of 5 innocent people. If the choice was between my wife and child. I would have to choose for my child to live, and I think any mother and wife would be in agreeance to sacrifice themselves for their child. We have already experienced most of what life has to offer...bitter and sweet.

[tom502]

This is very good, and spells it out clearly.