Life on Mars?

[sgreger1]

EDIT: It looks like a tunnel from far away, but if you look at the picture in the lower right corner, you'll see the ribs/ridges do not seem to show support structures at certain intervals, but instead random and often times partial or doubled ribs, leading me to believe it is more likely some kind of erosion rather than artificial archetecture at play.

[adm]

Nah... the tubes thing is easy to explain. Lava flows. The "ribs" are simply wehre material has advanced, then been cooled a bit by external temperature until the internal pressure has caused it to move forward again.

[sgreger1]

Nah... the tubes thing is easy to explain. Lava flows. The "ribs" are simply wehre material has advanced, then been cooled a bit by external temperature until the internal pressure has caused it to move forward again.

Via one of tom's linked conspiracy sites, in reponse to the Lava explanation:

if the canyon were there first, the lava would logically flow down its length -- filling it from wall to wall. So, the tube (as a separate cylindrical volume) had to predate the formation of the canyon proper - and had to have formed (or be placed there - see below) under preexisting, overlying materials. If those overlying deposits were volcanic or of relatively homogeneous composition, then what accounts for the (later, eroded) canyon "just happening" to follow the path of the tube proper? From a geologic perspective, understanding the relationship of "the canyon to the tube" is perhaps even more important to solving this mystery than understanding the genesis of the tube itself.

And:

Consider this: our hypothetical alien "creature" is busily burrowing along under the ancient Martian surface, and suddenly there is some sort of "catastrophe" that stops him in his tracks. A considerable amount of time goes by … and the unconsolidated material loosened by his burrowing is simply more susceptible to mass wasting, weathering and wind erosion than the undisturbed materials farther from his path. So, an eroded "canyon" eventually develops in his immediate vicinity, revealing his former presence through removal of the overlying and surrounding sediments …

There is precedent for such "silica producing organisms" here on Earth -- for example, radiolaria -- which produce siliceous "tests." Then, there are other silica-producing organisms that create literal tubular "glass straws" as by- products of their eating habits. (It's the "glass straw" left under the skin of a host by a "chigger" that creates the maddening itch -- long after the chigger has departed).

It just seems odd that lava would make things like this, that intersect at variouse points and occur at various depths, plus it seems like the mountain around it eroded at a tifferent time than the object itself.

[sgreger1]

Once thing I never understood is that Mars seems to have a few points of intirest that beg to be investigated, yet they always seem to send the rovers to some of the boringest destinations.

Geodesic domes in craters, large pyramid like structures, evidence of microbial life and other cool things. Why don't we check these out?




The golf ball is right next to this series of tunnels/lava formations/something.







"

We should go boldly where man has not gone before – fly by the comets, visit asteroids, visit the moon of Mars. There’s a monolith there. A very unusual structure on this little potato shaped object that goes around Mars once in seven hours. When people find out about that, they're going to say 'Who put that there?' Well, the universe put it there. If you choose, God put it there." -Buzz Aldrin

The Tower" seems to show a tall tower or stack with a white tip casting a long shadow. If it is indeed a tower of some kind, it stands at an incredible 6.3 kilometers high - 12 times taller than the largest skyscraper on Earth.

"It's puzzling," said Michael Carr of the US Geological Survey. "I looked at a few pictures around [the area] and couldn't find anything to explain it. Very puzzling! These are huge boulders. There are no indications of any outcrops that could shed such boulders."

How huge are they? It is estimated that they are between 50 and 80 feet in diameter! Those are big rocks!
"Wow! These have me totally stumped," commented Ron Greeley of Arizona State University. "Not only is the dark color of the boulders a surprise, but they appear totally out of context in the surrounding terrain. There is nothing in the rest of the image to suggest a source for such large boulders, nor their arrangement on the surface."

[tom502]

It's because "they" already know, and they don't want you to.

[adm]

Haha....

The tunnel things look like extrusions of lave through softer rock, where the soft rock has eroded over time to leave the harder volcanic rock. I'm pretty sure I've seen photos of similar things here on earth, but can't find any convenient link.

The golf ball things looks similar - as if a meteorite impact has punctured into an area with very thick lava just under the surface and some of that lava has extruded out like toothpaste, then chilled and shrunk.

The rest I don't know......

The damn shame is, Obama's just cancelled the Aries/Orion programme - so Americans won't be going to the moon (or Mars) in the foreseeable future. That alone would have cost him my vote if I was a US citizen. He should have just made the bailed out banks pay for it out of their next ten years obscene profits.

[sgreger1]

Haha....

The tunnel things look like extrusions of lave through softer rock, where the soft rock has eroded over time to leave the harder volcanic rock. I'm pretty sure I've seen photos of similar things here on earth, but can't find any convenient link.

The golf ball things looks similar - as if a meteorite impact has punctured into an area with very thick lava just under the surface and some of that lava has extruded out like toothpaste, then chilled and shrunk.

The rest I don't know......

The damn shame is, Obama's just cancelled the Aries/Orion programme - so Americans won't be going to the moon (or Mars) in the foreseeable future. That alone would have cost him my vote if I was a US citizen. He should have just made the bailed out banks pay for it out of their next ten years obscene profits.

I like to think that the simplest explanation is often times the correct one, so Lava may be the right answer. It's just that Mars as far as we know has been absent of any volcanic activity for a long time, and unless we date this phenomenon by acquiring a sample, it's hard to put a date and time to these.

My general question was why NASA seems to never go look at the cool stuff, Even if this were created by laza, getting samples of it could educate us about what time period there was still volcanic activity on mars.


As for Obama's decision, I am also very dissapointed. Of all the money this country spends, I really wish more of it were used on science such as stem cell research and space. Instead it goes to the banks and multi-national corporations.

I think that we need to get a manned trip to Mars or at least get something up there to take soil samples etc. I truly believe that these planets have to have something valuable on them, so even if money (as opposed to scientific curiosity) has to be the reason to get out there, I endorse it.

Just the helium 3 that is abundant on the moon would be worth a fortune if we could develope the technology to cheaply transport it back to earth.

And where are our einstein's, our Tesla's. Where is our cold war era space budget. These are all things we should be striving for, but instead we get crappy public school systems, and a defunded worthless beurocracy known as NASA to study space.

[Mordred]

I believe they are trees, forests, lakes, ancient cities, and underground civilization current.

While that would be VERY cool indeed, I'm afraid it isn't so. Mars is a pretty barren planet, but one that MIGHT be terraformed one day, since it's not too hot or cold, unlike say Venus. Of course, such an operation would be of such gigantic proportions that I fail to see what we would gain from it, but hey, just for lolz, it'd be worth it.

[sgreger1]

I believe they are trees, forests, lakes, ancient cities, and underground civilization current.

While that would be VERY cool indeed, I'm afraid it isn't so. Mars is a pretty barren planet, but one that MIGHT be terraformed one day, since it's not too hot or cold, unlike say Venus. Of course, such an operation would be of such gigantic proportions that I fail to see what we would gain from it, but hey, just for lolz, it'd be worth it.

Yah from what I can see, there is no evidence of anything particularly spectacular on this barren planet. At best it had flowing water and possibly harbors microbial life, either in the past or currently.

Terraforming would be cool, and is possible, but would require hundreds of years and a budget that even the USA couldn't afford. That and technology which we currently do not have.

We would have a lot to gain from it, but that all depends on how quickly we could develope the technology required to move things back and forth in a commercially viable manner. It's got a lot of space for farming and resource mining, so it would be worth it, but it's basically a pipe dream at this point.

[tom502]

I believe there is "something" there, that we are not privy to know about. Which is why all the public activities are showing nothing, and do not go to where the items of interest are. If the "powers that be" are in contact with ETs, and have been keeping this secret for so long, if they were let out officially what is really on Mars, it would be one step closer to having an official disclosure, and if the ETs are wanting their presence secret, which they obviously do, the "powers that be" are not going to reveal it.

[tom502]

I found this awesome website. Check out all the links, if interested. Awesome photos, that expose the Mars and Moon coverups. It also shows, without a doubt, how many of the official Nasa photos have been tampered with to smudge out anomalous things.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/e...trees-tech.htm

If this subject interests you, the pics alone are with a thorough visit to the site.

[sgreger1]

I found this awesome website. Check out all the links, if interested. Awesome photos, that expose the Mars and Moon coverups. It also shows, without a doubt, how many of the official Nasa photos have been tampered with to smudge out anomalous things.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/e...trees-tech.htm

If this subject interests you, the pics alone are with a thorough visit to the site.

Wow, I don't know how this site escaped me in the past. Thee pictures are amazing.








(False color added)






(Skeleton of an eel?)





















And of course, lots of tampering:












And most amazingly, how the hell did someone get OBEY graffiti onto mars? lol

[sgreger1]

And for PP, I think he really is from Mars...

[tom502]

Yep, there is more than enough photographic evidence to show that Mars at least "was" inhabited by civilized beings, and is still a living planet. The Moon photos are very amazing too. Banding on the moon, many more smudged out photos, and much evidence of faked moon landing photos.

[sgreger1]

Yep, there is more than enough photographic evidence to show that Mars at least "was" inhabited by civilized beings, and is still a living planet. The Moon photos are very amazing too. Banding on the moon, many more smudged out photos, and much evidence of faked moon landing photos.

I don't know what I believe as things can be interpreted several different ways in the pictures.
What I do know is that there is blatant doctoring of the photos they release, and that makes it very suspicious. Why sink all the resources and effort into covering up rocks and other things that don't threaten national security?

I think there is knowledge of something regarding non-terrestrial life that is being hidden, that much I am sure of.