Life on Mars?

[sgreger1]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6979855/Nasa-photographs-trees-on-Mars.html

"The "trees" are really trails of debris caused by landslides as ice melts in Mars's spring. You can even see a cloud of dust, just to the left of centre of the picture, where an avalanche is caught happening."

Yah I have this pic for my desktop background. It's an optical illusion created when the C02 that is frozen in the ground during winter starts to thaw in the summer months, where it turns directly from a solid to a gas and therefore evaporates so quickly it causes landslides.




As for the trees: I am really into mars and have never seen these pictures. There could be multiple explanations for it. As much as i'd like to believe it though, there is no way there could be trees on mars. I mean literally no way. At least living ones. That would have been picked up by scientists and ameature astronomers decades ago if that were the case. There is no reason to cover up trees.

As for the lakes, I dunno about those pics. There is liquid water on mars, which NASA found out recently, but we're talking like water droplets not lakes. The temperatures are too frigid to support liquid water in a bodie of water that big. It's either frozen or photoshopped.

[Premium Parrots]

I say its actually a closeup photo of the pimple on Roos ass. I can't confirm it but I'm sure Chad can.





I don't care what anyone says........thats funny as hell!

[sgreger1]

Well, Nasa has/had the ability to drop the rover in spots that are of high interest, the ancient city, the forests, and lake areas, but what did they do? Dropped it in the middle of a desert. Was this done on purpose? Seems so.

Sometimes I wonder when they launch a rover and they "lose contact" with it if they actually just wanted it out of the media's attention so they could go to the cool places. Then again, with the crappy budget NASA has, they prbbaly would lose it.



Also, Obama is redirecting any plans for manned missions or this type of thing to instead be used to fund global warming research. So much for our space program. Maybe we can ask the Russians or the Chinese what they find up there.

[sgreger1]

Also, the lake picture cannot be a lake. It is very windy on mars and the water is perfectly still without a ripple or an imperfection. It has to be something else. Probably frozen material that is very transperant.

The trees all seem to have a very fractal pattern. Not that trees don't normally. but it seems that their placement seems to also be in a fractal formation, which is odd. It has to be something else. I could not see how a tree could ever exist on mars and go unnoticed by anyone but this guy's website that look like a late 90's geocities page.



I am just curious because i've never seen pictures like this of mars before. Anyone know a link to where I can see this one NASA's website or something?

[tom502]

Well, this is Mars, not Earth, so it will all be different.
But what about the methane in the atmosphere, this is a by product of life, vegetation etc.

I believe they are trees, forests, lakes, ancient cities, and underground civilization current.

[RedMacGregor]

ya'll gonna start passing out the tin-foil hats any minute now

[Roo]

LOL PP! This thread is hilarious on so many levels

[sgreger1]

Well, this is Mars, not Earth, so it will all be different.
But what about the methane in the atmosphere, this is a by product of life, vegetation etc.

I believe they are trees, forests, lakes, ancient cities, and underground civilization current.

I share your inirest in Mars and I believe that looking at what we know so far, the odds are that Mars is home to microbial life. But only microbial. There is no evidence of any trees, unless there is a giant blatant cover-up, which is possible, but why?

The methane is not from meteors according to Nasa, so it is either form microbial life or volcanic activity, which mars is believed to have none of since it's considered a dead planet. But it is hard to tell from telescopes.


As for there being an underground civilization, if there were such a thing, do you believe they are intelligent? More advanced than us? Human life releases all type of radio waves, heat signatures and other signs of life that would be easly detectable using even the most basic technology from somewhere as close as mars. How is it that they have stayed hidden? Why would they hide? How could no on notice them?

I just don't think it's possible.


I suspect that if anyone believed there were life on mars (intelligent), we would have a manned mission put together already, as it would be the largest most relevant scientific discovery of all time.


Not saying it's not possible, but if trees grew on mars, the odds of them only growing on a small piece of land and nowhere else are pretty low.

I really want to know about those pictures showing lakes though since i have never seen or heard of them and I don't think liquid water would survive to well given the atmosphere and temperature of Mars.


Do you have any links to support your theory on underground life?

It just seems that hiding an entire race of people would be extremely difficult.

[sgreger1]

What is odd is the distribution of methane. It seems to be specific to a certain region.

Could be an underground water source being heated by volcanoes but like I said, there is currently no evidence of volcanic activity on mars.

[lxskllr]

I really want to know about those pictures showing lakes though since i have never seen or heard of them and I don't think liquid water would survive to well given the atmosphere and temperature of Mars.

http://spacefellowship.com/news/art1...ent-lakes.html

There's also modern "lakes", but the ice is CO2

[sgreger1]

I really want to know about those pictures showing lakes though since i have never seen or heard of them and I don't think liquid water would survive to well given the atmosphere and temperature of Mars.

http://spacefellowship.com/news/art1...ent-lakes.html

There's also modern "lakes", but the ice is CO2

I know there was water there a long time ago, you can see it in how it has eroded the ground across the planet. The pictures on this website Tom posted, do you think those are frozen lakes of c02? I had jsut never seen pictures like that. It can't be liquid because the surface is just too smooth.

[lxskllr]

I know there was water there a long time ago, you can see it in how it has eroded the ground across the planet. The pictures on this website Tom posted, do you think those are frozen lakes of c02? I had jsut never seen pictures like that. It can't be liquid because the surface is just too smooth.

I may have misread. It looks like it's water ice.

This image of a crater in near the Martian North Pole was taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera on the Mars Express orbiter. It shows a large lake of water ice. The temperature when the image was taken was above the sublimation temperature of carbon dioxide ("dry") ice, so the material must be water ice. The lake is about 10 km (33,000 ft) across.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/...arsImages.html

[adm]

Wouldn't you think that if there was a cover up, there'd also be supression of the "tree" pictures?

Fact is, there's a huge amount of high res imagery of Mars being dropped into the public domain every day.

Which of course begs the conspiracy issue.....it's probably a snow job.

Conspiracies are a bit like religion - difficult to disprove.

[sgreger1]

I know there was water there a long time ago, you can see it in how it has eroded the ground across the planet. The pictures on this website Tom posted, do you think those are frozen lakes of c02? I had jsut never seen pictures like that. It can't be liquid because the surface is just too smooth.

I may have misread. It looks like it's water ice.

This image of a crater in near the Martian North Pole was taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera on the Mars Express orbiter. It shows a large lake of water ice. The temperature when the image was taken was above the sublimation temperature of carbon dioxide ("dry") ice, so the material must be water ice. The lake is about 10 km (33,000 ft) across.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/...arsImages.html

Ah, yes I recall seeing that image before. So then if the images on this website Tom posted are real, which it seems they are, what do you make of the weird fractal crystaline pattern? I mean they can't be trees, so what are they?

[tom502]

http://www.unarius.org/mars/glass-tubes.html

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewph...RS_GLASS_TUBE/

http://www.nationalufocenter.com/art.../printer_3.php

http://geology.com/nasa/evidence-of-water-on-mars.shtml

http://blogsci.com/science/water-con...-lake-on-titan