Cloves banned. Knew it was coming, just wanna complain. :)

[chadizzy1]

Yeah, it was the early 80's. Those were my formative years, and the later 70's.

Sure, I love some Operation Ivy, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Black Flag...

I was waitin' for you on that one!

I like punk music in general, it's a great thing.

some of my favs:
anti-flag, bad brains, bad religions, black flag, bouncing souls, the clash, cockney rejects (oi punk), dead kennedys, goldfinger (punk-ish?), misfits, ramones, rancid, sex pistols, social distortion, soul asylum

don't know how you'd classify these, i call em "punk-ish"
dropkick muprhys, flogging molly, kaiser chiefs, me first and the gimme gimmes, mxpx, mindless self indulgence, nofx, new found glory, pennywise, sum 41, the transplants

[RRK]

Yeah, it was the early 80's. Those were my formative years, and the later 70's.

Sure, I love some Operation Ivy, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Black Flag...

I was waitin' for you on that one!

I like punk music in general, it's a great thing.

some of my favs:
anti-flag, bad brains, bad religions, black flag, bouncing souls, the clash, cockney rejects (oi punk), dead kennedys, goldfinger (punk-ish?), misfits, ramones, rancid, sex pistols, social distortion, soul asylum

don't know how you'd classify these, i call em "punk-ish"
dropkick muprhys, flogging molly, kaiser chiefs, me first and the gimme gimmes, mxpx, mindless self indulgence, nofx, new found glory, pennywise, sum 41, the transplants

Yeh I like at least one album from all of those bands you listed. Some of them kinda drifted away from punk but that happens to us all as we get old. :wink:

[Veganpunk]

lol, at Soul Asylum. Though a good band, very far from punk. Anti-Flag is amazing live.

[RRK]

lol, at Soul Asylum. Though a good band, very far from punk. Anti-Flag is amazing live.

The first album was punk and people continued to call them punk until the whole runaway train thing.

[Veganpunk]

Really, did not know that. Was it any good?

[tom502]

Yeah I like at least one album from all of those bands you listed. Some of them kinda drifted away from punk but that happens to us all as we get old. :wink:

Not me, I still am very punk, and my music is very punk inspired, the next album of my band will be even more punk.

[truthwolf1]

For me, it was Discharge, The Exploited, Crass, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag and Circle Jerks.

Looks more like 80's to me.

Yeah, it was the early 80's. Those were my formative years, and the later 70's.

This is how I remember it.
I was around 15-18 late eighties and caught the tail end of the punk rock scene. Those bands above all played at a place called FirstAve. in Mpls.

Somewhere between 88-90 punk died. I saw it die and the scene has never been the same since. It just burned out but then later was reborn and continues to be reborn with a lot of crap.

I started art school after that and it was all grunge and electronica. Then the first Lollapallooza with Janes Addiction brought the underground of alternative to the mainstream.

Wow, cloves really brought this topic off topic.

[daruckis]

man i wouldnt have thought so many of you were into punk. i started out with the poppy shit like screeching weasel and rancid, op ivy and all that. then i got into a lot of thrash and hardcore, really obscure bands like charles bronson and machine gun romantics. and metal punk like insect warfare. then for a while i was really into straight edge hardcore bands like chain of strength and inside out, 7 seconds. GOOD CLEAN FUN is the most awesome posi band. now as ive mostly fallen out of interest in punk, i have a kid, i work a lot and i dont go to shows and hate most everyone i used to hang out with and think theyre idiots. and really the only punk music i still love is all that poppy shit that once id gotten into hardcore wasnt cool to like anymore. anti flag was pretty cool live. the casualties suck ass. a global threat is the only good band from punkcore records. i love sum 41. this is a jumbled mess of thoughts.

[Veganpunk]

7 Seconds is cool. I like pop punk. The Ataris are one of my favorite bands. Blink 182, Green Day, NUFAN, Yellowcard. I saw Yellowcard open for No Use years ago. They were so cool, then they got huge. That happens a lot for me. NFG, The Ataris, Rise Against, Gym Class Heroes, all bands I was listening to before they got on the radio/tv.

I like the harder stuff as well.

[chadizzy1]

Really, did not know that. Was it any good?

it was AWESOME. "say what you will clarence, karl sold the truck" was VERY punky. you can actually get it on CD now. it was the first album of theirs i heard. a friend of mine had it and let me hear it.

[Veganpunk]

oh, Bouncing Souls = Hell Yea!

[chadizzy1]

ole ole oleeeee!!! oleeeee oleeeeee
so damn catchy.

and "wish me well". love that song. the token ex song.

[RRK]

i started out with the poppy shit like screeching weasel and rancid, op ivy and all that.

Wow, I wonder what the Operation Ivy guys would think about being called "poppy"? I gotta say those strait edgers were total jerks in my experience and the ones I knew were total hypocrites but as this discussion shows punk is a wide ranging genre of music with a wide range of fans.

Props to Tom for keeping the torch burning in Kentucky.

Also, IMO Blink-182 was ok at the very beginning but I think they kinda mark the end of the second coming of punk. I know punk will continue to be reborn for the rest of music history.

[Veganpunk]

Yea, there earlier albums are some of the best catchy pop punk out there. Though not fully "punk" check out The Gaslight Anthem. There like if Bruce Springsteen's backing band was The Bouncing Souls, in a Cure cover band. There gonna be huge. Remember you heard it here first!! :wink:

[Kitabz]

Next Cigarettes will follow what is used in Europe and what you see on Pall Mall packs now.

Orange=Ultra Lights
Blue=Lights
Green=Menthols
Red= Full flavored.

Because you cant use terms such as low nicotine, lights, etc. (I think thats how Pall mall are labeled, Europe has their own fancy way).

Oh we're way beyond that now. Yes, Marlboro Lights are no more, over here they're Malrboro Gold. And we now have the pleasure of extremely graphic photographs of diseased body parts and dead bodies on each cigarette packet.

But not content with that, the anti-lobby here is now pushing to have stores keep cigarettes under the counter and not visible to the public. And that they all be sold in white boxes with just the name of the brand and variety in the same black font (plus the warnings and graphic photographs I presume). No branding whatsoever.

With each concession, the antis immediately push for another thing.
First it was warnings, then no TV advertising, then no print/billboard advertising, then no sports sponsorship, then no advertising in store at the tobacco counter, then no promotions/giveaways, then bigger warnings, then graphic photographs, now no branding and no visibility. I'd hate to work in marketing for a cigarette company, it must suck.