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  • daruckis
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    • Jul 2009
    • 2277

    #16
    very nice!

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    • Snusdog
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      • Jun 2008
      • 6752

      #17
      What is amazing to me is that you had a Tobacco worm..................I mean was he just hanging out in the area on the chance that somebody would plant a tobacco crop in the Suburbs of FL? Where do you think he came from?

      I mean does each neighborhood have a colony of Angolan Pomegranate Beetles just in case one of us happens to plant a pomegranate tree?

      Crazy................ but the grarden looks great JT!!!
      When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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      • lxskllr
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        • Sep 2007
        • 13435

        #18
        Originally posted by Snusdog View Post
        What is amazing to me is that you had a Tobacco worm..................I mean was he just hanging out in the area on the chance that somebody would plant a tobacco crop in the Suburbs of FL? Where do you think he came from?

        I mean does each neighborhood have a colony of Angolan Pomegranate Beetles just in case one of us happens to plant a pomegranate tree?

        Crazy................ but the grarden looks great JT!!!
        :^D

        That's what I was wondering! The garden looks great Justin. I'm interested in seeing the whole process from field to finish :^)

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        • justintempler
          Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3090

          #19
          Originally posted by Snusdog View Post
          What is amazing to me is that you had a Tobacco worm..................I mean was he just hanging out in the area on the chance that somebody would plant a tobacco crop in the Suburbs of FL? Where do you think he came from?
          The hornworm doesn't live his whole life as a "worm" He's a caterpillar.

          His mother flew in and dropped her eggs on my leaves. This is what the adult looks like:



          DISTRIBUTION:

          The Carolina Sphinx, Manduca sexta sexta (Wing span: 3 3/4 - 4 3/4 inches (9.5 - 12 cm)), flies in tobacco fields, vegetable gardens, and a wide variety of habitats from Massachusetts (two Maine larvae sightings in 2002: Berwick and Bailey's Island) west across southern Michigan to Minnesota, central Colorado, and northern California; south to Florida, the Gulf Coast, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California.

          http://www.silkmoths.bizland.com/msextsex.htm

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          • LaZeR
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            • Oct 2009
            • 3994

            #20
            Originally posted by justintempler View Post
            The hornworm doesn't live his whole life as a "worm" He's a caterpillar.

            His mother flew in and dropped her eggs on my leaves. This is what the adult looks like:



            DISTRIBUTION:

            The Carolina Sphinx, Manduca sexta sexta (Wing span: 3 3/4 - 4 3/4 inches (9.5 - 12 cm)), flies in tobacco fields, vegetable gardens, and a wide variety of habitats from Massachusetts (two Maine larvae sightings in 2002: Berwick and Bailey's Island) west across southern Michigan to Minnesota, central Colorado, and northern California; south to Florida, the Gulf Coast, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California.

            http://www.silkmoths.bizland.com/msextsex.htm
            WTF. I have those things in my house. Seriously! Do you think they are after my 'nasal snuff' stash? It's not in the fridge but rather scattered out amongst several drawers, my briefcase, on dresser, ect...

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            • Snusdog
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              • Jun 2008
              • 6752

              #21
              Originally posted by justintempler View Post
              His mother flew in and dropped her eggs on my leaves.
              Women......................it's always the damn women
              When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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              • bipolarbear1968
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                • Mar 2010
                • 1074

                #22
                Originally posted by LaZeR View Post
                WTF. I have those things in my house. Seriously! Do you think they are after my 'nasal snuff' stash? It's not in the fridge but rather scattered out amongst several drawers, my briefcase, on dresser, ect...
                A little bug told me that they also love Odin's, Skruf Extra starks and Spanish Gem. Make sure that they are well hidden

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                • justintempler
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 3090

                  #23
                  Some watering tips. I'm growing these in the hot Florida sun, right now it gets up to the mid-90s during the day. The soil here is naturally sandy so it doesn't hold moisture very long. If you don't water them enough during the day they will start to wilt in the sun.
                  They get 3 waterings a day. 10am, 2:30pm, 8pm. I use a wand on the end of the hose set to the shower setting. You don't want to water the leaves while the hot sun is out or you'll get sun burn spots on your leaves. You just water around the base of the plant and make sure the water starts to pool when watering and let it soak in. The last watering of the day (8pm) is the same except I give the plants a light shower and make sure to rinse off any accumulated sand off of the bottom leaves.

                  I've still got a few hungry caterpillars. They're easier to find later in the day. I guess they don't like the hot sun either. The Thuricide seems to do a good job of killing them. Besides spraying the top and undersides of the leaves make sure you concentrate on the stalk, the very top of the stalk where the new leaves unfold and the joints where the leaves meet the stalk. Most of the caterpillars are like the smaller one in the above pic. I don't know if they are younger versions of the green monster or if they are a different species but the Thuricide will take care of all caterpillars.

                  I dug out a piece of concrete that was at the back of the garden. I wasn't sure what it was or how big it was. I thought it might have something to do with the septic tank, it didn't. It looks like the leftover base for a 4 1/2" steel pipe that used to support one of those old 11 foot satellite dishes. It's gone now and gave me room for 2 more plants, so I'm up to 77 plants now.

                  Right now I planning a set of update pics around the 4th of July.

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                  • Snusdog
                    Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6752

                    #24
                    Impressive and thorough...............Thanks JT

                    Look forward to the update pics

                    Also next time you find one of the unknown catipillars......................stick in a jar and take it to a local garden center or nurcery..............they will probably be able to ID it for you
                    When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                    • zeb
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 53

                      #25
                      Wow thats a damn nice crop of tobacco,I fight those same caterpillars here in Ohio,they can wipe a tomato plant out in a hurry.

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                      • jgrandmont
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 157

                        #26
                        Wow man,,,, that is cool.

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                        • justintempler
                          Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3090

                          #27
                          Originally posted by zeb View Post
                          ..I fight those same caterpillars here in Ohio,they can wipe a tomato plant out in a hurry.
                          That Thuricide works great for caterpillars, it took about a week to completely get rid of them. I found a tip that makes it more effective. After you've mixed your Thuricide add in 1 or 2 ounces of molasses per gallon. The molasses acts like food for the bacteria and will keep it active longer, the molasses also makes it stick more to the plant so it doesn't wash off as easily when it rains.

                          I had a bout 12 plants that got knocked over by a heavy rain lastnite, luckily none of the big ones. I might end up having to pull some of them, I'll give them a couple of days to see what lives. I still have spares.
                          I already started adding in 5 gallon of dirt per plant to help brace the base of the plant so I don't have a repeat when the next heavy rain comes.

                          They're growing like weeds.

                          Height - Tallest Plant
                          June 14 - 29 inches
                          June 16 - 31 inches
                          June 18 - 36 inches
                          June 20 - 40 inches
                          June 22 - 43 inches

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                          • zeb
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 53

                            #28
                            Originally posted by justintempler View Post
                            Height - Tallest Plant
                            June 14 - 29 inches
                            June 16 - 31 inches
                            June 18 - 36 inches
                            June 20 - 40 inches
                            June 22 - 43 inches
                            Wow your plants are growing like weeds,my tallest plant is only two feet tall.What type of fertilizer are you using and did you use anything when you put them in the ground?

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                            • justintempler
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 3090

                              #29
                              When they were small I used some Miracle Grow for tomatoes.
                              The only fertilizer since transplant I've used is some 10-10-10 Hyponex. The rest is plenty of water and sunshine.

                              Height - Tallest Plant
                              June 14 - 29 inches
                              June 16 - 31 inches
                              June 18 - 36 inches
                              June 20 - 40 inches
                              June 22 - 43 inches
                              June 24 - 48 inches
                              June 26 - 51 inches
                              June 28 - 54 inches
                              June 30 - 61 inches
                              July 02 - 67 inches
                              July 04 - 72 inches - Nothing but rain and clouds, pics will be up when the weather co-operates. - a couple of the plants are starting to develop flower pods so it looks like they'll top out +/- 6 foot (not counting the flowers)

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                              • justintempler
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                                • Nov 2008
                                • 3090

                                #30



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