Just for everyones reference, I set the petition to close Sept 8 2009.
PACT Act of 2009 - S. 1147
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that's a topic i ranted on in my blog actually... voter apathy.Originally posted by tom502I don't like either party, but on most issues I like the Repubs most, but ideally, I like Libertarian most. I think Obama got in cuz he's younger and hip. But I would think, if they we knowledgeable, the youth, instead of being led by MTV and voting on hipster cool, would vote for freedom, and the Libertarian party would get more attention.
Check it out at riseupandbeheard.blogspot.com
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we have discussed this and discussed it like crazy. but the sheer fact is that it will pass as long as it contains "for the children" or "money for terrorist cells", and it will more than likely pass. it sucks, but like sage says, the ostritch is the best way to handle it.
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Ah... The route of the patriot act. Figures. Worth a shot none-the-less.Originally posted by chadizzy1we have discussed this and discussed it like crazy. but the sheer fact is that it will pass as long as it contains "for the children" or "money for terrorist cells", and it will more than likely pass. it sucks, but like sage says, the ostritch is the best way to handle it.
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one more thought chad... did you sign the petition before you put your head back in the sand?Originally posted by dupee419Ah... The route of the patriot act. Figures. Worth a shot none-the-less.Originally posted by chadizzy1we have discussed this and discussed it like crazy. but the sheer fact is that it will pass as long as it contains "for the children" or "money for terrorist cells", and it will more than likely pass. it sucks, but like sage says, the ostritch is the best way to handle it.
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This post really pisses me off.Originally posted by dupee419i'm painfully aware that they vote..... all the time. I know exactly what you mean about the people. I live in hawaii and down here you can't smoke within 20 feet of a window or door of any business. Now they're trying to ban smoking from the beaches; which in a way I support simply cuz I've seen tons of butts in the sand, and equally as many parents taking said butts from their small children just before they try to jam 'em in their mouths.
So don't get me wrong, I understand both side, but we're getting ****ed w/o lube here.
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which part? the legality of smoking in hawaii, or the irresponsible smokers here?Originally posted by whokilledmyhookerThis post really pisses me off.Originally posted by dupee419i'm painfully aware that they vote..... all the time. I know exactly what you mean about the people. I live in hawaii and down here you can't smoke within 20 feet of a window or door of any business. Now they're trying to ban smoking from the beaches; which in a way I support simply cuz I've seen tons of butts in the sand, and equally as many parents taking said butts from their small children just before they try to jam 'em in their mouths.
So don't get me wrong, I understand both side, but we're getting ****ed w/o lube here.
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Just out of curiosity, why does this post piss you off?Originally posted by whokilledmyhookerThis post really pisses me off.Originally posted by dupee419i'm painfully aware that they vote..... all the time. I know exactly what you mean about the people. I live in hawaii and down here you can't smoke within 20 feet of a window or door of any business. Now they're trying to ban smoking from the beaches; which in a way I support simply cuz I've seen tons of butts in the sand, and equally as many parents taking said butts from their small children just before they try to jam 'em in their mouths.
So don't get me wrong, I understand both side, but we're getting ****ed w/o lube here.
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I'm still a lil pissy about how the country treats soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines. As far as I'm concerned you should be able to blow lines off a hookers ass, while drinking a case of beer on the sidewalk in front of the police station if you want to regardless of your age, just for being willing to get killed for your country.Originally posted by frizodanizzoI signed the petition as well. I'm in the military and im not happy about it at all. i risk my life for freedom and i dont want another one being taken away from me or anyone else in america for that matter. petition on my friend. btw, i even emailed the senator for our state in congress.
Thanks
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Hi everyone, I'm new to snus, and I enjoy it (only used General white/original/loose so far though). I like how I can use it wherever, and no one knows/cares. I usually buy it from a cigar shop in Philadelphia, if the PACT bill passes, does that mean that the cigar shop will no longer carry it? That would be terrible, I'm just getting into this.
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No. Your local shop should still be able to sell it to you.Originally posted by rammstein84Hi everyone, I'm new to snus, and I enjoy it (only used General white/original/loose so far though). I like how I can use it wherever, and no one knows/cares. I usually buy it from a cigar shop in Philadelphia, if the PACT bill passes, does that mean that the cigar shop will no longer carry it? That would be terrible, I'm just getting into this.
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by the way....Originally posted by dupee419No. Your local shop should still be able to sell it to you.Originally posted by rammstein84Hi everyone, I'm new to snus, and I enjoy it (only used General white/original/loose so far though). I like how I can use it wherever, and no one knows/cares. I usually buy it from a cigar shop in Philadelphia, if the PACT bill passes, does that mean that the cigar shop will no longer carry it? That would be terrible, I'm just getting into this.
Welcome to the party.
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Thanks, this stuff is greatOriginally posted by dupee419by the way....Originally posted by dupee419No. Your local shop should still be able to sell it to you.Originally posted by rammstein84Hi everyone, I'm new to snus, and I enjoy it (only used General white/original/loose so far though). I like how I can use it wherever, and no one knows/cares. I usually buy it from a cigar shop in Philadelphia, if the PACT bill passes, does that mean that the cigar shop will no longer carry it? That would be terrible, I'm just getting into this.
Welcome to the party.
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Welcome to Snuson rammstein84
No, just the opposite. Whole point of PACT act is to MAKE you buy it from your local store, how they can gaurantee all taxes due are paid. So whole point of PACT act in the end is to support and force business to local shops.
A side benefit that I imagine would come out of it is a whole bunch more snus being sold finally locally. And I know Swedish Match is gearing up to provide if it comes to this.
So....no stress....you will still be able to get you snus
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