Dipper's Guide to Snus

[Big L]

Great info Sunsdog. My first order should be in on Monday or Tuesday and as much as I hate to say it, I hope I can stay away from Cope. Just curious, but do the Snus wintergreens, like the General, do they compare to something like Copenhagen Wintergreen?

Skoal wintergreen was one of my dips of choice back in the day. I have always been a big fan of wintergreen. General WG is good, but it does not taste like wintergreen dip to me. The Offroad longcut and Thunder wintergreens are closer, but again, snus is not going to taste like dip. My advice would be to try all the WG flavored snuses and see which one you like best. My "substitue" for wintergreen dip is the Offroad longcut, I find it very easy to just pinch and throw in, upper or lower deck. If you like Cope straight, I would suggest Grov los, although again, nothing can really compare to the Cope flavor. After a while, my tastes adjusted and I prefer the flavor of snus more than dip now.

[Snusdog]

Great info Sunsdog. My first order should be in on Monday or Tuesday and as much as I hate to say it, I hope I can stay away from Cope. Just curious, but does the Snus wintergreens, like the Genereal, do they compare to something like Copenhagen Wintergreen?

I never was a big wintergreen user so I'm not sure I am the best one to answer your question. There are plenty of Wintergreen fans and there have been quite a few threads dedicated to the subject. You might want to run a search using wintergreen as the key word (I'd search the treads first then posts)

That said, I would not spend too much time looking for snus that is like _____________dip. Snus that tries to be like American dip usually sucks. Approach snus as a completely independent product and let it stand on it's own merits.

One more thing: lower lip when you want to, learn to upper deck it, and put the cope down for a month. I think you will find snus more than replaces dip

[Unsmooth Moment]

Great info Sunsdog. My first order should be in on Monday or Tuesday and as much as I hate to say it, I hope I can stay away from Cope. Just curious, but do the Snus wintergreens, like the General, do they compare to something like Copenhagen Wintergreen?

[Snusdog]

Tom, as a general rule, I would be less worried about the chew and more worried about the dip. However, all the sugar in chew would be a real concern for me especially if I had and was having gum issues.

Cut back on one at a time and see at what point the problem begins to rectify itself (then you'll have your culprit).

[tom502]

I wonder if the sweet chew, and dip, is worse for the gums than the natural types, like Copenhagen?

That sweet chew just tastes so good. But I wonder if all that sweet(sugar?) would cause more gum problem than not sweet dips? or a non sweet chew(Havana Blossom?).

I have 4 cans of sweet dip, and 3 pouches of sweet chew, plus 16 cans of snus in my stash, oh and a half can of Copenhagen Natural. This stuff will be somewhat hard to quit, as though I do like snus, I really like a big a chaw of chew.

Thanks dog.

[Snusdog]

Tom, if that is where you have been using dip/chew, then that is exactly what happened to me with dip (and why I now use snus exclusively).

I will get salt and pressure texturing from time to time with snus (especially if I fall asleep with one in or if my mouth is dry) but this is very different from what I had with dip.

I would remain leery of dip especially if you have been using it rather regularly for a while now. Chew seems less problematic but I am still concerned about the sugar and the curing process with chew.

Lay off dip/chew and move the snus around from pris to pris and see if this does not clear the problem up.

[tom502]

My question for you long time dippers,

How's your gums? This is my main concern, and it really has me contemplating quitting(it all).

I haven't dipped long, but now I think I am noticing more recession on my bottom side teeth.

I think it's my dip/chew use, on top of many other things(42yrs old, high blood sugar/pressure, bad diet, smoked about 20yrs).

It all kinda makes me mad, it seems everything one does has some bad effect.

[Snusdog]

my last can of dip(which I still have some of) was copenhagen. It made a perfect transition as I think the flavor is a little more snus-like.

Very happy with the skruf stark, seem to be able to handbake well enough.

The gotlands tastes great(fresh, good for morning), but I'm having alot more trouble forming it. Considering buying a tool, but only If I can't get good enough at handbaking.

Yea maybe I should qualify my remarks about gul.

About two years ago Gotlands changed their grind (made it a bit finer). Thus it might be more accurate to say that it is easier to bake than it was before.

Skruf los is one of my all time favorites. It just does so much well

[deebocools]

my last can of dip(which I still have some of) was copenhagen. It made a perfect transition as I think the flavor is a little more snus-like.

Very happy with the skruf stark, seem to be able to handbake well enough.

The gotlands tastes great(fresh, good for morning), but I'm having alot more trouble forming it. Considering buying a tool, but only If I can't get good enough at handbaking.

[Snusdog]

I take small pinches of dip, always have(unless I'm feeling frisky or something), so I got skruf stark for the purpose of even smaller pinches.

sometimes it's hard to fight the beast inside that says "really? that's all?" but whenever I do, it's enough nicotine with the least wear on my mouth. I also got some gotland gul, because I liked the flavor of the portions and it came in 50g cans.

gul is very good but it tends to be an acquired taste....thus I don't usually recommend it at first. Regardless, you got two very good choices both of which bake well.

[deebocools]

I take small pinches of dip, always have(unless I'm feeling frisky or something), so I got skruf stark for the purpose of even smaller pinches.

sometimes it's hard to fight the beast inside that says "really? that's all?" but whenever I do, it's enough nicotine with the least wear on my mouth. I also got some gotland gul, because I liked the flavor of the portions and it came in 50g cans.

[Snusdog]

yeah, you answered my question quite well. I'll just have to learn to bake and be a man.

Grov and Skruf are also very good and easy to manage (Skruf is a little stronger but you can always just use a bit less).

Also, of the brands I mentioned Knox is the strongest in flavor. Thus, it is good for those coming right from dip but may not be as good for someone like you who has already been at snus for quite a while.

I would say Grov and P Brown are the two I would start with.

The key is to keep the pris small at first (about 2/3 the size of a regular portion) and work up from there.

A Prismaster may also help at first (just don't load it to capacity- put your thumb on the slide and keep it about 2/3 of the way down when you are loading it. Pack it in good and compress it on the lid of the can by putting the open end of the prismaster on the lid and pressing down on the slide)


dog 8)

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[deebocools]

yeah, you answered my question quite well. I'll just have to learn to bake and be a man.

[Snusdog]

this post is useful to me, but in an unusal way because I switched from dip to snus using portions, and stuck with them. I never got into loose, but I think I didn't try hard enough.

my first los was loda racket, and I could not get it to stay together like a dip.

I hated every v2 product I tried, but noticed all of the "long cut" snus they put out. If I would one I liked, would this be a good option?

If i understand your question I would not put much hope in any of the long cut offerings out there. generally i would avoid any snus that tries to be dip.

I would give Knox a try or even Granit.
However if you have never had Phantom blue or brown in the los you really should give them a try.

I'm not sure this answers your question. If not let me know and i'll try again

[deebocools]

this post is useful to me, but in an unusal way because I switched from dip to snus using portions, and stuck with them. I never got into loose, but I think I didn't try hard enough.

my first los was loda racket, and I could not get it to stay together like a dip.

I hated every v2 product I tried, but noticed all of the "long cut" snus they put out. If I would one I liked, would this be a good option?