Dipper's Guide to Snus

[Snusdog]

Thanks for the advice, I won't mind putting a can of the Oden's kannel los in with my next order............assuming there is a next order.........thanks congress.

Hey JbR,

A couple that I forgot to mention that really dip well are Gellivare and Landstroms. If you have not tried these I highly recommend that you pick up a few tins of each (even if you end up not liking them- they will be easy to unload on the exchange).

Both G&L are old school snus (snus like it would have been made 100 years ago), they are very natural, and both taste great and have one of a kind flavors (I know you said you are not a Bergamot fan- but it may not be a factor with either of these the flavor is that different/unique). They are made by a what amounts to a micro brewery of snus (literally a husband and wife team in Sweden).

Be warned, they are a mess to work with and it will take some time (even for a seasoned snuser) to get baking them down- nothing to put you off of buying them though. They both have a unique grind and texture (which contributes to the difficulty in baking as well as to their more dippableness), They are very easy on the gums and if I remember correctly have the lowest TSNA count of any snus (don't quote me on that part.......it's been a while .......but I do remember reading that on one of the vender's sites)

Anyway, they are two that every one should try at least once for their uniqueness and they may be just what you are looking for. Two of my favorites and probably the two I would choose if I had to live on just one type of snus....................wait?.................on just two types of snus.

Give em a try

[Jimbob_Rebel]

Grab up a tin of oden's ES Kanel (if you can find it in stock) or regular oden's Kanel lös. IMHO, the cinnamon is not at all overpowering and holds a nice flavor and pack. Kinda reminds me of a good ol'e hunk of cope in regards to the pack. Even in the upper lip.

Thanks for the advice, I won't mind putting a can of the Oden's kannel los in with my next order............assuming there is a next order.........thanks congress.

[LaZeR]

Thanks for the welcome BigL. I enjoyed the Skruf I've tried, bit rich in the nicotine dept. though. I've tried Oden's but I don't like bergemot. Oden's cannel is intrigueing but though I love cinnamon it irritates my mouth.

Grab up a tin of oden's ES Kanel (if you can find it in stock) or regular oden's Kanel lös. IMHO, the cinnamon is not at all overpowering and holds a nice flavor and pack. Kinda reminds me of a good ol'e hunk of cope in regards to the pack. Even in the upper lip.

[Jimbob_Rebel]

Welcome Jim_bob! Grov is awesome, and I agree that Offroad has the best texture for packing. I like Odens a lot too. Skruf works pretty well , as Snusdog said. Give it some time, you'll get used to the finer grind of snus. It took me a while, but now it's second nature to pinch it and throw it in.

Thanks for the welcome BigL. I enjoyed the Skruf I've tried, bit rich in the nicotine dept. though. I've tried Oden's but I don't like bergemot. Oden's cannel is intrigueing but though I love cinnamon it irritates my mouth.

[Big L]

Welcome Jim_bob! Grov is awesome, and I agree that Offroad has the best texture for packing. I like Odens a lot too. Skruf works pretty well , as Snusdog said. Give it some time, you'll get used to the finer grind of snus. It took me a while, but now it's second nature to pinch it and throw it in.

[Jimbob_Rebel]

I apreciate the welcome snusdog. I actually take cope in the upper lip (known colloquially as a "top deck dipper"LOL!) than below. I do believe you're on to something in that it isn't likely all texture. The Offroad has the best texture of the stuff I've tried thus far(I prefer the cranberry which surprised myself). Regarding a possible chemical explanation, it is perhaps a byproduct of the flame curing process in american snuffs which also produces tsna's which as we all know are suspected carcinogens. If our government were honest brokers they might conduct a study taking into account the zero correlation between snus use and oral cancer and all tobacco products could be made safer.

[Snusdog]

I'm a long time Cope user exploring snus use. I like the taste of Grov, I just wish the grind were not so fine. Seems most snus is fine to the point that it feels like clay in the mouth.

Jimbob, welcome to the forum mate

I agree the grind takes a little getting used to. In this regards I think upper lipping it rather than just dipping it will help. There are also some brands that are better in this regards than others (Gotlands, Phantom, Skruf, and Knox come to mind)

I also think there is a chemical difference that has as much to do with the feel as the cut (in fact I think if you simply changed the cut the problem still would remain in large degree). There seems to be something in dip that allows it to pack/bond in a way that snus cannot not (possibly a preservative that allows dip to need lest moisture but not go dry).

Anyway whatever it is, I think the trade off is well worth it. Stick with it. Give yourself time to acclimate and I think you will find there is no going back.

Keep us posted and again welcome to the forum

[tom502]

It is like clay. It's like moisturized nasal snuff. I like the taste of of los, but I'm not a fan of the cut.

[Jimbob_Rebel]

That's true. I swapped a can of Grov to can of Copenhagen Snuff few years back with American lad I met at work. We both came to conclusion that originally they were same type of snus and you can still taste and feel that.

I'm a long time Cope user exploring snus use. I like the taste of Grov, I just wish the grind were not so fine. Seems most snus is fine to the point that it feels like clay in the mouth.

[Snusdog]

After looking at my lower gums I dunno if I will ever wanna use dip again. Good news is I have some General wintergreen headed my way

I'm gonna quit dip, because I think the small dip cut packed down is bad for my gums. I do still have a few cans of Gold River, but this stuff is very soft, so when it's gone, I'm not getting any more. But I think I'll continue with loose leaf, I like that more anyway.

I get tagged all the time for being a snus snob but I'm really not. It's just after having done dip for so long and having seen it's end results and then reading posts like the above over and over again..............the risks just are not worth the rewards. I see no reason to fool with it at all especially when there is a better tasting, safer, and less expensive option in snus.

Just put the dip down........................... and back slowly away

[tom502]

I'm gonna quit dip, because I think the small dip cut packed down is bad for my gums. I do still have a few cans of Gold River, but this stuff is very soft, so when it's gone, I'm not getting any more. But I think I'll continue with loose leaf, I like that more anyway.

[Unsmooth Moment]

you're welcome.

Spread the word. Snus is the shiznits.

I still dig a nice pinch of Copenhagen now and then. shhhhh.....

After looking at my lower gums I dunno if I will ever wanna use dip again. Good news is I have some General wintergreen headed my way

[bakerbarber]

you're welcome.

Spread the word. Snus is the shiznits.

I still dig a nice pinch of Copenhagen now and then. shhhhh.....

[Snusdog]

Snus and Oral Health

Here is a great thread on oral health and snus that you might want to check out. It was started by bakerbarber and is testimonial in nature. Thanks bakerbarber.


http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...?12693-Dentist

[Big L]

Tom, if that is where you have been using dip/chew, then that is exactly what happened to me with dip (and why I now use snus exclusively).

I will get salt and pressure texturing from time to time with snus (especially if I fall asleep with one in or if my mouth is dry) but this is very different from what I had with dip.

I would remain leery of dip especially if you have been using it rather regularly for a while now. Chew seems less problematic but I am still concerned about the sugar and the curing process with chew.

Lay off dip/chew and move the snus around from pris to pris and see if this does not clear the problem up.

My experience with dip was similar. I have some bad recession in my lower left gum, where I used to place my dip. But after snusing for about 2 years, I don't have any recession or gum pain in my upper gums, and when I do lower deck the snus it doesn't bother me. I get the "salt lip" or whatever it's called, but that clears up after I spit the snus out. I still chew some Redman once in a blue moon, but I never did it on a regular basis, so I can't really say whether that would cause as much recession as dip.