Kardus Superior Blend 2009

[wadetheblade]

I wonder when the northerner will start to ship this kardus?

[Veganpunk]

So I've started talking up the 60 dollar snus to the wife. Maybe I can place an order when she's reading the new WoT and not paying attention! :wink:

[NorSnuser]

Sorry rum is not and cannot be like cognac.

I've mostly seen this when referring to French and Brazilian rums. It can be true of any fine aged rum, however. As stated in the linked article:

French and Brazilian Rum (cachaça, although Brazil might argue with us on this) is generally funky and usually lighter in body that it's English counterpart. If this rum is aged it smooths out and mellow much like Cognac. The French motto was "Let rum be Cognac."

Later on the same article states:

Aged rums are as complex as any Cognac, Scotch or Bourbon, as good on the rocks as in a cocktail.

It is interesting to note that the rum in Kardus is aged twenty three years. Not just because it is cool that it is the number 23 for those individuals who have a penchant for 23, but because there are no strict regulations for the aging of rum and aged rums can be very complex.

http://www.bebetterguys.com/your-pla...beginners.html

Also, give El Dorado 21-Year-Old Demerara rum a try. This baby goes for $110 bucks a bottle and is worth every penny.

This is a superb, complex, opulent spirit from Guyana, dark amber in colour, almost viscous in texture, sweet and lingering in the mouth. The smells and flavours are of toffee, toasted coconut, vanilla, milk chocolate, hazelnuts and orange peel. I served it straight up in brandy snifters at a recent get-together, and it blew everyone away.

http://www.thespec.com/article/390389

From the description I would expect that the Guatemalan rum in Kardus is in this class and that makes the $65 dollar price tag more reasonable. Kardus is a fine snus made with fine ingredients.

[Bigblue1]

Let's just move or delete the off topic posts and move on. Or just move on and stay on topic.

I want to post my thoughts on Kardus in this thread once I receive it. I also hope the merchants have read about the lid problem and will secure the boxes better to avoid shipping mishaps.

. If this rum really is more like cognac I'll be in heaven.

Sorry rum is not and cannot be like cognac.

[Poo-Diddy]

ChaDizzy, seriously look at my post count, I contribute very little to this forum, you should seriously take what I say with a grain of salt.

Like I said, I got a bit pizzed when I was looking forward to reading about the snus I had just purchased and instead found basically the same thing I had just read at buysnus.

That in no way means you should stop being a contributer to this forum. You are lucky enough to recieve information that most of us are not priveledged enough to get.

Sure I think you can relay the information in a better way but so what?

The bottom line is I am a nobody contributer to this website. In fact my biggest claim to fame is obviously being a jag-bag in this thread as you can tell by my what 15 posts in a year?

I love to read this forum and that is about it, especially since I enjoy snus, but know very little about it...

Chad, continue to share your valuable info, please don't stop on my acount, plenty of people have already expressed how much they appreciate your posts.

and if I'm being perfectly honest, I to enjoy reading them and most times laughing to myself since for whatever reason I find them sometimes annoying, but seriously, you can't please everybody. And I am a nobody when it comes to contiributing to this website.

This time was just a bit different as I had just plopped down a bunch of money on a snus and was really looking for something to tell me I had made the right decision, stupid on my part to be such an azzhole about things.

[cj]

what is it with some people on here chad dont let anyone run you off i find your reviews and other info you post very help full and informative and i thank you for all the work you do to shair that with us!!!

[sagedil]

Poo-Diddy, actually, there was much good in what you wrote. Yes, perhaps the delivery wasn't all that up to it. But there was much validity in what you said, something I made use of in some private conversations Chad and I had because of it.

But you really did have a point, even if some of the way it was handled I wouldn't do. But I want you to know that we really are strong enough here at Snuson. So if you need to say something, always feel free to do that. I promise, I have pissed people off before when I have been blunt. And I have tried to learn to do it better the longer I am here. But I will always be honest on Snuson, as I hope you will continue to be as well.

I think we have killed this topic to death now. But needed to say what I said above.

[chadizzy1]

Dude if you continue to spend this kind of time writing critiques of other people's posts and apparent personalities, character flaws, etc you aren't going to enjoy the forum much, nor are you going to make many friends. Just let it lie, you don't have to like chad, or even care about him. He's here, he likes it, and his enthusiasm for the forum shows. The same cannot be said of you. So, if you like snuson, stay here and enjoy it without railing so hard against other members, and if you don't like it because of a few members, I guess you'll have to piss off. btw I like your handle. makes me want to grow a poo manchu.

Your probably right, like I said I just snapped off a bit after plopping down my purchase for the kardus2009 I came here to look for some info on what I had just bought and clicked on this thread only to find nothing but what I deemed a chadizzy recycled information post and got pizzed.

I've definately carried it too far and apologize.

Chadizzy, much respect to you for biting your lip at my harsh posts and not fueling the fire here.

Actually makes you a very good forum member in that regard by avoiding the flame war I started.

My apologies....I'm the azzhole here no doubt....

Well, I've actually taken alot of what you said to heart. Along with some private conversations with some others, I'm pulling back alot of my information I post here and limiting it to my blog/website, along alot of info I release, and limiting my posting activity as well. I assure you, you won't see much of me. So I hope that helps, and keeps you around here!

[justintempler]

Let's just move or delete the off topic posts and move on. Or just move on and stay on topic.

Agreed don't punish the many for the actions of a few.

Back on topic......

Being made from lamina is a big deal and part of what makes Kardus special. Your everyday snus has a lot of stem tobacco and doesn't look like the pretty pictures you see in the PR photos.

If you want to see a real photo.

Swedish Match has a supplier that supplies some of their inplant equipment called Palmstiernas. Palmstiernas did a news story in their company newsletter with real pictures from inside SM.

http://www.palmstiernas.se/ventilen/...ilen1_2002.pdf

Look at the picture of the tobacco on page 4. The caption reads:
Tobacco entering the process to become a tobacco flour.

Kardus is different. 8)

[captncaveman]

Dude if you continue to spend this kind of time writing critiques of other people's posts and apparent personalities, character flaws, etc you aren't going to enjoy the forum much, nor are you going to make many friends. Just let it lie, you don't have to like chad, or even care about him. He's here, he likes it, and his enthusiasm for the forum shows. The same cannot be said of you. So, if you like snuson, stay here and enjoy it without railing so hard against other members, and if you don't like it because of a few members, I guess you'll have to piss off. btw I like your handle. makes me want to grow a poo manchu.

more like a Roo manchu

[Poo-Diddy]

Dude if you continue to spend this kind of time writing critiques of other people's posts and apparent personalities, character flaws, etc you aren't going to enjoy the forum much, nor are you going to make many friends. Just let it lie, you don't have to like chad, or even care about him. He's here, he likes it, and his enthusiasm for the forum shows. The same cannot be said of you. So, if you like snuson, stay here and enjoy it without railing so hard against other members, and if you don't like it because of a few members, I guess you'll have to piss off. btw I like your handle. makes me want to grow a poo manchu.

Your probably right, like I said I just snapped off a bit after plopping down my purchase for the kardus2009 I came here to look for some info on what I had just bought and clicked on this thread only to find nothing but what I deemed a chadizzy recycled information post and got pizzed.

I've definately carried it too far and apologize.

Chadizzy, much respect to you for biting your lip at my harsh posts and not fueling the fire here.

Actually makes you a very good forum member in that regard by avoiding the flame war I started.

My apologies....I'm the azzhole here no doubt....

[chadizzy1]

I appreciate your input, but in the future, if you have an issue - please bring it to me privately, or PM it.

Talk like this is negative for a forum, and insults and the kind of talk that has been continuously thrown at me over the past few days is not productive of a forum.

Let's just let this thread die or something, and if you MUST continue to insult me, do it in private, because I don't like seeing continuous insults out in public, making this forum look bad.

[Roo]

Dude if you continue to spend this kind of time writing critiques of other people's posts and apparent personalities, character flaws, etc you aren't going to enjoy the forum much, nor are you going to make many friends. Just let it lie, you don't have to like chad, or even care about him. He's here, he likes it, and his enthusiasm for the forum shows. The same cannot be said of you. So, if you like snuson, stay here and enjoy it without railing so hard against other members, and if you don't like it because of a few members, I guess you'll have to piss off. btw I like your handle. makes me want to grow a poo manchu.

[Poo-Diddy]

WTF poo? What do you have against chad? You act as though you are
paying to read chad's posts. Is this a "free" forum or what?

Indeed RatBat, this is a free forum and of course I have not paid a penny to read any of chad's posts. What I have against him is that he continuously posts everywhere and on everything and rarely in my opinion posts anything of any substance, basically just a complete lack of personality over 2,000 times, I guess I finally snapped a bit. Of course just my opinion on a free forum.

Chad's cut and paste approach may seem a journalistic horror story to
you but isn't it just information dissemination? What makes what you
wrote so special? Where's the additional information?
Earth shattering insights? Originality devoid of substance is your big
contribution? Looks, and reads, to me as nothing more
than duelling verbosity.

Journalistic horror is really not a problem for me. I'm obviously not much of a writer myself. But I'm pretty sure you can tell my amatueristic article was not just cut and pasted and presented as my own personal review.

Who are you to instruct anyone in how and what to write? You present yourself as just another pompous ass with nothing but bitter bile to
contribute.

I'm usually not one to instruct, but it seemed to me chadizzy was accepting to some peoples suggestions, he always is, he listens to whatever anybody tells him. Another reason he lacks any personality to me. I attempted to throw my pompous ass suggestion out there with the thought he might actually see he does not have to be a journalistic wizard to not plaguerize a report. It was my pompous ass attempt to be nice and I shouldn't have posted it. Chad doesn't need direction from me. Nobody does, my apologees. I'm not gonna hold a contest though so the forum can find me a new personality. I am who I am.

What is it with chad's avatar that sets you off? How can you even give
a **** about it? Do you have no life at all? What's next... a rambling
diatribe on the virtues of originality in avatar selections?

As far as Chad's avatar it is exactly what I have been saying to me. I don't think I need to explain what it signals to me and how it personifies him to me again. I've been pompous enough already. But I will say I am pretty happy with my life since you asked. Got a great family, home and job to pay for it all, hell even my fantasy football team is in 1st place. In these times I can't complain one bit. But thanks for asking, shows you really care.

Sheesh, I thought nicotine was supposed to mellow one out.

For some, for me it just sharpens my senses. And when reading this forum while partaking in one of my many different forms of nicotine delivery it just seems to sharpen my senses. Unfortunately causing chad's avatar and posts to irk me more most times. Actually, if I was him I'd revel in the fact I annoy a pompous ass like myself. Instead he posted how it bummed him out.

The whole Kardus thing may be nothing more than cheap rum in
a can of Kronan with a half a dozen drunk-ass swedes spinning
out the marketing and laughing non stop at our dumb ****ing asses.

Now this I like. Alot.

Here's a Bat's eye review ... original no less!

"Kardus 2009 is the latest offering to try try to tap into the American
penchant for anything that sounds "new" and "special". Nothing more
than Kronan soaked in cheap rum and stuffed in a shitty wooden box,
it's limited production run and exorbitant price tag has insured it's
success in the US, where the last vestige of critical thinking expired
during the last election cycle.

Many insiders are now claiming this heralds a new and enduring marketing scheme for the major snus producers. According to one marketing
executive, "Why should we bust our ass to produce a quality product
for the American market when those asshats will buy anything our
drunken marketing department dreams up as long as we charge
twenty times the normal price and stick it in a crappy wooden box."

Why indeed?"

Now this is what I'm talking about. This is great stuff to me. Very entertaining post and brought a smile to my face. I can actually see you have a sense of humor and personality from reading this. Pretty much the same reason I find Premium Parrots to be one of my favorite posters here. He has his own personality and it shows, much like many other people here who post. To me Chad has no personality whatsoever with his posts. Again, just an opinion. Even I seem to have come through with some kind of personality, be it a pompous ass but hey it's something. I'm not gonna hold a contest to have the forum find me a ne one. I'll take myself for who I am and be happy.

Bat :twisted:

.... and yes, my avatar totally sucks and is quite annoying. That is the
point tho', isn't it?

Again, it isn't the avatar, it's what the avatar signals which is another post that completely lacks any personality to me.

You can change the avatar to whatever, but it is the substance of your posts that matters on a forum, to me Chadizzy doesn't seem to get that. Instead he talks about holding contests to find a new avatar. How can that help, it will just show once again a complete lack of any personality. Reminds me of the kid in school that would do whatever the popular kids asked just to be accepted. Over 2,000 posts in less than a year and this person is not crying out for acceptance?

But heck I love me some jules snus and I guess I'm a sucker for a good contest, so let me be the first to enter the pick chadizzy a new avatar contest.



I think's I got's me a winner here.....

[NorSnuser]

Let's just move or delete the off topic posts and move on. Or just move on and stay on topic.

I want to post my thoughts on Kardus in this thread once I receive it. I also hope the merchants have read about the lid problem and will secure the boxes better to avoid shipping mishaps.

The descriptions of Kardus talk about only using the lamina and people seem confused about this. The midrib stem on a tobacco leaf can be up to 30% of the weight of a leaf. Most snus is simply the whole leaf, including the midrib, ground or chopped up.

Using only lamina and making a long cut will definitely bring out the flavor of premium tobaccos. My guess is that this Kardus will have a very pure tobacco flavor that is relatively mild but long lasting. The mixture of rum (especially oak aged 23 year old rum) should complement the tobacco very nicely. If this rum really is more like cognac I'll be in heaven. I've always wanted an armagnac or cognac flavored snus. I'm looking forward to trying this snus and I hope it lives up to or exceeds my expectations.