Any plans to stock up before FDA regulation or PACT kick in?

[chainsnuser]

oral tobacco with North African heritage (the manufacturing process is totally unknown!)

Mohammed the prophet brings Tunisians their tobacco. That's why the process is totally unknown. :shock:

No, I don't think so :wink:. "Makla" is indeed just a snus-like product made with extremely strong tobacco and presumably lime (instead of soda). I have a can in the fridge, but I use the stuff very rarely. The taste is not very appealing.

Keep in mind that the manufacturing-process and the ingredients of cigarettes also are unknown to anyone who is not working directly in the production of the single cigarette-company, and cigarettes certainly aren't just a "natural" product, in fact they can be called designer drugs due to the addiction-enhancing and pain-killing substances used. There are first attempts to make cigarette-additives public and it's no fun to read, and I'm not talking about the well known bogus-propaganda-nonsense (like the atomic waste or battery-acid or fibreglass - fairytailes told to keep children from smoking or dipping).

On the other hand, the most documented tobacco product of them all, snus, which only contains food-approved ingredients, is banned in the EU, while cigarettes are free for sale. You can hope, but you shouldn't expect that it will work out any better with the PACT-Act in the US, especially since it's all about tax-money and not about health.

The only thing that kept the EU from a total snus-ban until now is the fact that Sweden is a member of the EU, so we can import our snus hassle-free, including Swedish taxes which then to some extent are used to finance the EU.

Now what will keep the US-government from a total ban on snus? Of course, the US-government could tax snus, but why should they do so? They already get calculable cigarette tax-revenues from nicotine-addicts, why should they experiment with a healthier alternative?

I'd hope for the best but expect the worst. Modern politics aren't humane anymore.

Cheers!

[rscott222]

'Many concessions have been granted to get tobacco companies to buy into this legislation weakening the bill even further, e.g., UST Inc. - now owned by Altria, the biggest U.S. maker of smokeless tobacco products and the North American unit of Swedish Match AB which also sells smokeless tobacco announced they would support the bill. The bill was amended to give smokeless companies the ability to give away free samples to adults under limited circumstances which hadn't been allowed in earlier versions of the bill.'


Link to Full Article:
http://snus-news.blogspot.com/2009/0...is-philip.html

I'm not sure how accurate this article is, but if it is true, then I am going to abstain from stock piling and trust SM has a plan for this. As much as Big Tobbaco is villainized in the U.S. I am surprised at the trust this forum seems to have for SM. Even if General is $4/tin I would keep snusing, if at the end of all this we're talking more like $5-6 to deter kids from choosing snus over cigs, I would have to re-evaluate that decision.

[PassedPawn]

Even if General is $4/tin I would keep snusing, if at the end of all this we're talking more like $5-6 to deter kids from choosing snus over cigs, I would have to re-evaluate that decision.

Here in NYC General already costs $6/tin.

[rscott222]

What is the price of a pack of smokes?

[Lucky Striker]

I was in NJ a couple of weeks back and the General was almost 9.00 a tin. The cigarettes are a dollar or two more.

[rscott222]

OMG I can't imagine. Everything is more expensive there though isn't it? I wonder if that has curved their smoking avg. compared to other states or not.

[rscott222]

Cigs in WI are about $6/pack for name brand, no Snus dealers here but Camel Snus goes for $4/tin.

[PassedPawn]

What is the price of a pack of smokes?

$10.50 is the highest I've seen so far.

[rscott222]

Wow! I cam see some of the dynamics now with our current situation.

[HK11]

What is the price of a pack of smokes?

$10.50 is the highest I've seen so far.

No shit? That is crazy. There were somewhere near 6 in AR the last pack I bought.

[Jason]

Even if General is $4/tin I would keep snusing, if at the end of all this we're talking more like $5-6 to deter kids from choosing snus over cigs, I would have to re-evaluate that decision.

Here in NYC General already costs $6/tin.

That's what it costs here in San Diego, also. The first time I bought a tin local, I remember it being under 5 bucks. :?

[lxskllr]

I remember people complaining when they went over $1 per pack. They didn't quit then, and they won't quit now. It's an easy grab for the government since no one's gonna take up the cause of those filthy tobacco users at the expense of the kids :^S

[rscott222]

$6/pack was about my breaking point, this is definitely a tax on the poor.

[HK11]

I remember people complaining when they went over $1 per pack. They didn't quit then, and they won't quit now. It's an easy grab for the government since no one's gonna take up the cause of those filthy tobacco users at the expense of the kids :^S

I remember when they were like 50 cents, I think. Or maybe I am am having selective memory.

[rscott222]

When I first started smoking it was around $2-3/pack.