SMs product push.

[HK11]

I like ettan a lot, but I can see why General is the biggest name. For a while I sort of put general in the back seat, but it really is my favorite snus. It just has great flavor ( the loose that is, the portions are sorta meh).

[tom502]

Doesn't anyone agree with my post? I'm sure they could figure out a way to not need it to be kept cold, and it could be right next to Redman at the local grocery.

[lxskllr]

Doesn't anyone agree with my post? I'm sure they could figure out a way to not need it to be kept cold, and it could be right next to Redman at the local grocery.

I think dip suffers for being kept warm. Warm snus is as good as warm dip imo. They could release snus as is for shelf use, but it would be sub optimal. The refrigerators help separate snus from the "redneck" brands, and I think will help it gain greater acceptance from a wider variety of people.

[MasterGuns]

plus the refrigerator is intriguing. A guy visits his regular tobacconist and sees this weird little fridge sitting on the counter. "Oh, so THIS is the real snus stuff huh? I may give this stuff a shot, wife keeps giving me hell about the spitting anyways, lets see if I can pull a fast one on her with this."
I dunno, somethin like that :wink:

[PassedPawn]

To me, I think the refrigerator aspect to snus is a big detriment. Many stores that could carry Swedish snus can't because they lack the space for a fridge, even a small one. Also they prefer a tobacco product that doesn't require them to keep an eye on expiration dates. They just want to stock it until their supply has been bought out, which may not happen until well past the expiration date.

[tom502]

PassedPawn understood exactly what I was meaning to convey. Currently only a few select tobacco speciality shops carry General, and have a special fridge. I'd like to see real snus be carried by local retail shops, and gast stations, groceries, etc., and I think the need for refrigeration is the big hold up for this. I SM makes other tobacco products, and if they could devise a way for no refrigeration, and longer shelf life, the General cans could be right next to Redman, Skoal, at the corner gas station, and SM could attach coupons to their non snus items for a free can of General, and people would get it to try, also just having it at the local store, people will get it as something new to try. I personally never go to specialty tobacco shops, so I've yet to see real snus sold, but all the gas stations have Camel SNUS. I did try to go to a tobacco shop yesterday that is said to have a General fridge, but they were closed on Sundays and I didn't know.

[PassedPawn]

Here in NYC we have a lot of the small Indian candy/tobacco shops and chain pharmacies, such as Duane Reade and CVS. They're basically the largest outlets for tobacco products to the average consumer and they're not going to carry snus if it requires TLC with a fridge. They would need a "dry" snus that they could just shelve and forget about until sold. But I guess that can't be made without impacting the flavor or increasing the amount of TSNAs in snus.

[tom502]

I believe adding 1 extra step in the production, dropping the product, portioned or loose, in a sealed foil bag(maybe vacuum packed), and then this being placed in the sealed can(finished product), would halt the need for refrigidated shelf storage, and greatly lengthen the shelf life. This way, these cans could be marketed to any retailer. Keeping snus a niche speciality item that requires special treatment, and only in speciality stores, I believe, will only keep snus use a very minimum in the US, and if we can't buy it in the mail at some future date, it will probably go the way of the 8-track tape.

[ChrispyPolanks]

hey passedpawn you from nyc? what part? i'm from brookyln my self but wont be back home till next month or so . do you know of any spots that sell snus? i was looking for shops before i left and didn't find any. I probably didn't look to well but would be nice if there was a place near me that sold General Los.

[lxskllr]

hey passedpawn you from nyc? what part? i'm from brookyln my self but wont be back home till next month or so . do you know of any spots that sell snus? i was looking for shops before i left and didn't find any. I probably didn't look to well but would be nice if there was a place near me that sold General Los.

Stop by the drugstore for some KY first ;^)

[PassedPawn]

hey passedpawn you from nyc? what part? i'm from brookyln my self but wont be back home till next month or so . do you know of any spots that sell snus? i was looking for shops before i left and didn't find any. I probably didn't look to well but would be nice if there was a place near me that sold General Los.

I'm in the Manhattan parts myself. I went to a place called Cigar Inn located on East 71st Street and 1st Ave. to pick up some General when I first started snusing. The General WPs were $6 per can when I got them in Dec. 08. They had some General los in the mini-fridge along with General WP, Wintergreen, and some Catch.

This link will show you the retailers in NYC (mostly Manhattan I'm afraid):
http://www.swedishsnus.com/US/storelocator.asp