Loose snus to be banned in Denmark, Sweden last one standing

[GoVegan]

I suppose it'll make people feel better than doing nothing, but it won't accomplish anything. Tobacco users are too few to enact any change. If we had greater numbers, lets say they were oppressing beer drinkers, we could shut down whole countries. They don't care about facts, they don't care about honor, and they don't care about us. The only thing they understand is subways ceasing to be run, and garbage not getting picked up. Make those things happen, and you'll have snus at your door by the end of the month.

True but we have to play with cards we have been dealt and die with our boots on if need be.

[lxskllr]

There are a ton of online petition sites on the web. Why not start there? We could also post a thread at snus central and gosmokeless.org asking people to sign it.

I suppose it'll make people feel better than doing nothing, but it won't accomplish anything. Tobacco users are too few to enact any change. If we had greater numbers, lets say they were oppressing beer drinkers, we could shut down whole countries. They don't care about facts, they don't care about honor, and they don't care about us. The only thing they understand is subways ceasing to be run, and garbage not getting picked up. Make those things happen, and you'll have snus at your door by the end of the month.

[GoVegan]

There are a ton of online petition sites on the web. Why not start there? We could also post a thread at snus central and gosmokeless.org asking people to sign it.

[Roo]

Excuse me while I derail this thread momentarily...

c'mon wa3zrm, you're just going to start inserting your news stories into constructive, otherwise-thoughtful threads? There's two examples of this just on the 10 most recent threads. This forum's not big enough for your Yahoo 'weird news' bites? Show some class! What you're doing is called spamming. I know you beat off to being our resident troll/spammer, but I for one would like you to keep it out of normal, thoughtful discussions about SNUS. Danke.

[Morten]

I feared this would be coming.

They have been screaming for years about those evil smokers, who is poisoning the air for the little whiners calling themselves "victims". And now that a smokeless solution is at hand, they bloody ban it. EU-bastards!

And what did they not ban? The cigarettes that started this idiotic campaign! Bloody hypocrites!

I am not giving up my snus, even if this will make me a criminal. Normally I would consider myself to be a decent, law abeiting man, but I have had it. I don't give a damn about the EU and I will screw their laws. And you know what? It's going to make me feel good.

[Grim]

Hey guys, how likely is it that Sweden would just say, "You know what? Screw the EU, we are done." If EU sanctions told them they can no longer flavor snus? There are already states here in the US that forbid the sale of fruit flavored dips. I mean its hilarious that you can be an adult that enjoys flavored tobacco and the government thinks its stricly geared towards kids.

Im still angered by this after reading this earlier while I was in class.

On a positive note, maybe Gotlands would have no choice but to bring back their natural offerings......HURRAY!!!

Im joking, this whole situation going on with the EU just shows how ignorant and immoral the leaders there are.

[wa3zrm]

Snus is really just nasal snuff and water. It's a little more complicated than that, but not by much. He sells plain flour, which would be my choice for snus.

I could see it now... we would be like the Chinese... only we would be buying 50 pound bags of snuff rather than rice

Speaking of Chinese...

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[lxskllr]

A choice is buying tobacco from Toque and making ones own snus? From nasal snuff? Sounds pretty nasty. Or does he sell raw tobacco?

Snus is really just nasal snuff and water. It's a little more complicated than that, but not by much. He sells plain flour, which would be my choice for snus.

[SnusoMatic]

That EU sucks. Denmark has worse leadership than we do in the USA. Personally, I think the EU acts like a dictator.

A choice is buying tobacco from Toque and making ones own snus? From nasal snuff? Sounds pretty nasty. Or does he sell raw tobacco?

[Premium Parrots]

There ya go. Thats a start. Ya need someone to put the words together for everything and get the template out there. Gather the names and address of the people that need the letters and list them. Send the template and addresses to everybody to fill out and sign and post. Use your email contacts, facebook [yea make a page to save snus!!] Get all the likes you can, contact other websites with the info. Its a bit of work to get started but once the ball starts rolling it might help save snus.

Taxing snus is one thing but banning it is crazy.

Load em up boys

Well I am an attorney (solicitor as we are called here) but i specialise in one area of law rather than general practice, its been a LONG time since I studied any type of EU law etc.

HOWEVER, the EU members can petition their EU parliament representative, write letters (if we could come up with a template that just needs name and address adding) spam the fookers with it. UK members (and any other EU members) can write to their members of parliament, we have spoken to ours many times and get on very well with him, he has just been promoted into the cabinet (inner circle of UK government) so when we go down to see him I will certainly be bringing snus onto the agenda and our membership of the EU (cans of snus will be distributed around the houses of parliament, which is one of the few places in the UK exempt from the smoking ban!).

I have already converted a few people in work to snus, I do not and will not go back to smoking, but I enjoy tobacco, its legal so I should be able to enjoy it in the medium in which I choose. People just don;t want to hear the words, tobacco and safe or safer in the same sentence, smoking it is bad for you, can't deny it, however snus is a hell of alot safer than smoking it!

[Skell18]

same here ^


Well, this sucks big time. The freaking world is a mess these days. We need to take control back from the governments if there is anyway that we can. How can we unite to possibly do something to help? What are the options for us to let the right people know that snus is saving lives? There has to be something that can be done. Don't we have some attorneys that are members here that might have some ideas and put something together to try and stop this shit? Isn't there some kind of petition or something can be put together that we can all sign that might help then lets do it. Make it general enough that we can appeal to the members of snuscentral and go smokeless and other online tobacco forums to also get involved. Its time to unite and give em hell. Even tho I'm doing what I can to help the members at SnusOn the governments are making me sick and tired of all this bullshit. This just isn't right and its pissing me off big time.

end of rant......for now

Well I am an attorney (solicitor as we are called here) but i specialise in one area of law rather than general practice, its been a LONG time since I studied any type of EU law etc.

HOWEVER, the EU members can petition their EU parliament representative, write letters (if we could come up with a template that just needs name and address adding) spam the fookers with it. UK members (and any other EU members) can write to their members of parliament, we have spoken to ours many times and get on very well with him, he has just been promoted into the cabinet (inner circle of UK government) so when we go down to see him I will certainly be bringing snus onto the agenda and our membership of the EU (cans of snus will be distributed around the houses of parliament, which is one of the few places in the UK exempt from the smoking ban!).

I have already converted a few people in work to snus, I do not and will not go back to smoking, but I enjoy tobacco, its legal so I should be able to enjoy it in the medium in which I choose. People just don;t want to hear the words, tobacco and safe or safer in the same sentence, smoking it is bad for you, can't deny it, however snus is a hell of alot safer than smoking it!

[Premium Parrots]

They need to do a real world survey and they would find snus saves kittens and baby seals! If I hadn't found snus I would still be smoking too. Now I have no desire to smoke, take away my snus and I would kill those kittens and seals that it saved!

same here ^


Well, this sucks big time. The freaking world is a mess these days. We need to take control back from the governments if there is anyway that we can. How can we unite to possibly do something to help? What are the options for us to let the right people know that snus is saving lives? There has to be something that can be done. Don't we have some attorneys that are members here that might have some ideas and put something together to try and stop this shit? Isn't there some kind of petition or something can be put together that we can all sign that might help then lets do it. Make it general enough that we can appeal to the members of snuscentral and go smokeless and other online tobacco forums to also get involved. Its time to unite and give em hell. Even tho I'm doing what I can to help the members at SnusOn the governments are making me sick and tired of all this bullshit. This just isn't right and its pissing me off big time.

end of rant......for now

[chossy]

You all need to go to Sweden, find a proper tobacco shop and make bulk buys to last you a year, I think it will be worth it, cause the snus shops selling to EU are expensive as hell. Anyone coming to Malmö I can aid in the purchasing.

[Skell18]

There you go, I rest my case, I'd still be on the ciggys otherwise.

They need to do a real world survey and they would find snus saves kittens and baby seals! If I hadn't found snus I would still be smoking too. Now I have no desire to smoke, take away my snus and I would kill those kittens and seals that it saved!

[Skell18]

options available at the minute:

* Oliver Twist tobacco pellets and the Jager Pris ones - OT vs snus costwise fails as you need loads to kill a craving, plus they taste horrible lol, the cuts arrive tommorw will let you know how they go!

* buy tobacco off Toque and make your own los snus - love toque and happily sniff it all day long, never tried making los with it though, intrigued

* order from PP - hell yes!!

* smoke a pipe - still the "oral cancer" risk and can't do it indoors, love a pipe though so always a goodun

* GN - hell yes

* Makla - that stuff is just wrong!! lol

All good Ansel mate, don't forget the picanelli bits, stronger than OT and Mr Snuff sells them, not tried them yet though.