Cuban snus to USA question

[luckysealy]

Ill stand by my case that cuban tobacco is no different than any other.

You do not pay for the quality of tobacco when it comes to cuban.... you are simply paying for a name.

I could grow pot in Cali, Georgia, Amsterdam, Canada and so on. As long as its the same seed in each location itll be the same quality.

Different strains offer differnt tastes but when it comes to cuban you are paying for a name. Nothing more.

i have to disagree tobacco from different places have different qualities. same for coffee, i like coffees from different regions in the world. i have had some very fine cuban cigars. the tobacco and the way they are rolled both play a part. the growing of pot as a reference is a piss poor example. i don't know a soul that smokes dope for flavor. different weather conditions, soil and so on all play a huge part in how most plants turn out. compare a cuban cigar to it's dominican counterpart and tell me there isn't a difference. i'm not saying the cuban tobacco snus is any good. i've never tried any, but don't dismiss the cuban cigars they are truly wonderful and no other cigar i have ever tried even comes close to the cuban r&j's i have had.

[aj01]

Cuban tobacco

I know the guys at Taboca. And from what I know, the Cuban tobacco is added in as a flavoring agent. It does not hold moisture well, so it is not a large percentage of the blend, but it does add that 'certain something' that gives the Cuban snuses their edge.

"Tobacco is tobacco" is nonsense. It has an enormous amount of grades and varieties from countries all over the world.

[sychodelix]

Honestly, Hoyo de Monterrey uses the seeds from cuban tobacco (were smuggled many years ago) and grown in the Dominican Republic, so they are legal. If you want to try real cuban tobacco that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, is legal, and you KNOW you are getting the real thing, get a few Hoyo de Monterrey Excalibers. Best damned cigar I've ever tasted.

And whoever says tobacco SEED from different locations is exactly the same is stark raving mad. Soil types in different locations may make a "slight" difference, but usually, as long as the soil is the right type and the location has the right conditions, it won't be severely different as long as the seed is the same. On the other hand, different seeds are used for everything from cigars, to snuff or snus, to pipe tobacco and even insecticide. Smoke a cigarette made with insecticide grade tobacco and see if you don't go into seizures and die!

[aj01]

Cuban tobacco

What's important for Taboca and their Cuban brands is that they are truly Cuban. Their founder travels to Havana regularly for status meetings.

I do not think Habanos would like the idea that their licensee is buying tobacco from the DR. I am sure getting "Montecristo" and "Romeo y Julieta" licensed as snus was not an easy job. The products have to have the real stuff in them to carry the names.

[rsuelzer]

Re: Cuban tobacco

What's important for Taboca and their Cuban brands is that they are truly Cuban. Their founder travels to Havana regularly for status meetings.

I do not think Habanos would like the idea that their licensee is buying tobacco from the DR. I am sure getting "Montecristo" and "Romeo y Julieta" licensed as snus was not an easy job. The products have to have the real stuff in them to carry the names.

You can buy "Montecristo" and "Romeo y Julieta" in cigar shops here, I gaurentee they don't have real cuban in them. So I don't think that is a requirement. They are licenced because someone pays big bucks for the name.

[aj01]

MC RyJ cigars in the USA

Habanos SA of Cuba is 50% owned by Altadis SA (recently bought by Imperial Tobacco).

In the USA, Altadis USA has the rights to MC and RyJ, but the products must be produced outside of Cuba, and they are made in the Dominican Republic.

Funnily enough, the Habanos 'jewel in the crown,' Cohiba, is owned by Swedish Match in the USA. I don't know why.