Cuban snus to USA question

[RobME]

Yes, the embargo's an old story, no need to debate it. Still... I'd like to trial the Romeo y Julieta and Montecristo snus. I may or may not like it but I think it's worth a try.

I did attempt to order portions from both Buysnus and Northerner. Each supplier removed the orders from my shopping cart. OK... np, moving on...

Ordering these products from Snusworldwide SEEMS to work differently. They'll accept the order and payment for it, but they'll take no responsibility if the package is intercepted by US customs. I'm aware of the risk and I understand and have no problem with this. (I haven't put in my CC info yet) I wanted to gather some opinions here first.

US customs didn't interfere with my Buysnus package. Shipped via Swedish Post, it was marked on the label only as 'Swedish Snus'.

So I guess the questions are; Can I expect the same (or similar) experience with Snusworldwide? Are their shipments (customs labels/declarations) similarly vague? Anyone have any experience with them? Anyone do this before? Is this an old story revisited? Are these foolish questions?

Thanks,
Rob

[CWC]

Never ordered from Snusworldwide before, but I have ordered from BuySnus, Northener and SwedishSnus.com all customs lables basicaly just say snus on them. There was a time when you could order Montecristo from Northener without it being taken out of your basket. I got a tin once and did not have any problems having it delivered.

[RobME]

I guess this really isn't a subject of interest, but for whomever might care, I got an valid pointer from a non-snussing friend of mine. I'm going to email snusworldwide and make an inquiry and get a clarification.

If they list the country of origin (on the customs declaration) as Sweden, then I'll place the order. I suspect that although it's made in Sweden, the country of origin might probably be listed as Cuba, and in that case, I just won't bother to buy as it'll certainly be confiscated.

Answered my own question

Will post back what I find out.

[Xobeloot]

The country of origin SHOULD be listed as sweden. I have gotten montecristo loose from Northerner before. Techncally speaking, it is Swedish snus made with Cuban tobacco. Still considered a Swedish product.

Hope that helps.

[spirit72]

Either way, let us know how it works out. I'd really like to try them both, and I don't really want to wait for another 5-10 years when this stupid embargo finally gets put to rest. :shock:

[exexpat93]

I feel your pain...

I so wanted to try Romeo and Juliette also. I was going to add 5 tins to my first order and it was removed by Northerner. I've had the real deal Cuban Cigars overseas and they aren't half bad (even the cheap ones).

I wish they did list it as a purely Swedish Product and allow it in. I am so curious about the taste and... breaking a minor taboo. :evil:

[RobME]

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[The Cook]

Have you tried snus.de yet? They sell both Montecristo and Romeo y Julietta. They are based in the US, but do business in Germany. I don't know what their cuban selling policy is, but give it a try.

[RobME]

Have you tried snus.de yet? They sell both Montecristo and Romeo y Julietta. They are based in the US, but do business in Germany. I don't know what their cuban selling policy is, but give it a try.

I do appreciate your help, but I don't really get why you posted this. Snus.de ships out of Virginia USA, their prices are high, and they don't stock or sell any Cuban (Swedish) snus. Maybe you were thinking of another supplier.

Rob

[GenuineSpirit]

Rob,

Please Keep us posted, Because I too would like to try these.

Thanks Phil

[RobME]

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[Grim]

I just have a hard time trusting any of those sites.

I will only use buysnus. If i have to go t northerner i will but their prices are too freakin high.

After reading some of the reviews on this forum about those brands i have no interest to try them.

Cuban tobacco is over-rated. The reason Cuban cigars cost so much is not because of the tobacco but because of how good the cigar rollers there are. You pay for the skill they impart on the cigars that you cant get anywhere else in the world.

I think Swedish Snus is playign off the Cuban Legacy by charging so much for the tobacco. The tobacco from cuba is no different than tobacco anywhere else. So to me its just a big sam.

[Xobeloot]

/nod

I agree with Grim. Portions may be a different story, but the Montecristo Los I have used was OK at best. It had a nice grind/consistency like a Gotlands loose, but to me, the bergamot flavor was way overpowering.

The other factor on the loose is the fact that you only get 35g ( I can burn that up in just over a day), so cost is quite high just for the Cuban tobacco. I was going to order more some time ago, but I got to thinking... Is the thrill of being able to say "check it out! I have Cuban tobacco" worth paying the same amount for 35g than I can pay for 90g of my mainstay... Not for me.

On a side note, I have read many people here talk about how selightful the RyJ portions are. I'll take their word for it, but I will not be going out of my way to buy any.

I look forward to Rob's reviews on both delivery from these stores as well as the snus itself.

[chainsnuser]

I just have a hard time trusting any of those sites.

Snusworldwide is one of the oldest snus-shops and highly recommended by everyone who has done business with them, regarding what I've read in German snus-forums, which are frequented by many long-time snusers. I've never read any complaints about them.

Snuskaufenonline.de or snuskaufenonline.com appears to be new.

RobME, the Cuban snus topic has already been discussed here some times. It's just a matter of luck if you (as a US-citizen) get it or not. Northerner and Buysnus surely have stopped the shipments for good reason. I guess for every customer who is lucky enough that the package slips through customs there is another customer who is not and probably blames the vendor.

BTW, I only bought one can of Montecristo Lös. It's not in the same class as Cuban cigars. Xobeloot's description is dead-on.

Cheers!

[RobME]

Re: Cuban snus to USA question

I just have a hard time trusting any of those sites.

Trust is born of experience. Nothing more nothing less. Buy where you feel comfortable. I'm not a shill for these sites. I'm just sharing info and my own thoughts.

I will only use buysnus.

Two of my three orders were placed with Buysnus. I agree they're excellent.

After reading some of the reviews on this forum about those brands i have no interest to try them.

I've read the reviews & comments here. They're mixed, some good some bad. I like to think for myself and follow my own heart. I've smoked my share of true Cuban cigars. Some I like, some I don't. No different than anything else.

The reason Cuban cigars cost so much is not because of the tobacco but because of how good the cigar rollers there are.

Yeah, I've read this too, but I don't agree. Prices, no matter the commodity, are based strictly upon 'supply & demand', and seen and unseen market manipulations at work. You'll have to convince me otherwise. There are no 'magic rollers'!

The tobacco from cuba is no different than tobacco anywhere else.

You can't be serious. Please, I really don't wanna run with that comment, but I will say... varieties in tobacco taste & quality mirror those of coffee beans. It's in the quality of, and differences in the soil (mineral content, moisture, sunlight etc.), and how the crop is cultivated. Cuban tobacco is Very different. I'm sorry to spoil it for you.

I look forward to Rob's reviews on both delivery from these stores as well as the snus itself.

I've only ordered from one of them. Though the other is a far less expensive source. I discovered them after I'd placed my last order. I will follow-up.

Regards,