Cuban snus to USA question

[Xobeloot]

I just checked out snuskaufenonline.de for comparison purposes here is what I found:

1 roll General loose with shipping to the USA being the test subject:

Buysnus: $43.12
snuskaufenonline.de: $59.82

6 rolls if General loose + shipping to the USA:

Buysnus (including 6th roll plan): $210.06
snuskaufenonline.de: $280.03


One can buy roughly two full rolls more snus from buysnus for the same amount as six rolls from snuskaufenonline.de.

Other than the idea of being able to get Cuban branded snus, I would definately advise against snuskaufenonline.de vs Buysnus

[RobME]

I just checked out snuskaufenonline.de for comparison purposes here is what I found:

1 roll General loose with shipping to the USA being the test subject:

Buysnus: $43.12
snuskaufenonline.de: $59.82

6 rolls if General loose + shipping to the USA:

Buysnus (including 6th roll plan): $210.06
snuskaufenonline.de: $280.03


One can buy roughly two full rolls more snus from buysnus for the same amount as six rolls from snuskaufenonline.de.

Other than the idea of being able to get Cuban branded snus, I would definately advise against snuskaufenonline.de vs Buysnus

We saw different things. I just checked the price of a few single portion cans (I didn't check shipping costs) and found the opposite;

- General Onyx
Buysnus: $4.67
snuskaufenonline.de: $4.40

- General
Buysnus: $3.80
snuskaufenonline.de: $3.59

- Grov
Buysnus: $3.45
snuskaufenonline.de: $3.26

- Goteborgs
Buysnus: $3.80
snuskaufenonline.de: $3.59

- Ettan
Buysnus: $3.45
snuskaufenonline.de: $3.26

- Skruf (strong & original)
Buysnus: $3.73
snuskaufenonline.de: $3.59

- Montecristo
Buysnus: $4.84
snuskaufenonline.de: $4.56

- Romeo y Julieta
Buysnus: $4.53
snuskaufenonline.de: $4.24

So Xobeloot,.. I appreciate your correction and I apologise for the blanket statement I made. As it appears to me now; Buysnus has better prices for rolls and snuskaufen for single cans. BUT when one factors in the higher shipping costs, and the handling fee that snuskaufen tacks on, I would have to say that I agree with you 100%. and I certainly defer to your experience which is far more extensive than my own.

I guess it's always 'buyer beware'. Thanks &...

Regards,

[Xobeloot]

And along those same lines, we could always figure Northerner into the mix. At Northerner, you will pay a bit more per can, but they also provide the best selection of any other site I have found.

So...

There is a site out there for just about every purpose: Cheaper rolls, bigger selections, contraband...

[Roo]

I found snuskaufenonline.de while looking for a supplier who would not remove the "cuban" snus from my order. As I mentioned, no problems getting the order to the US in about 4 business days. And while I place all other orders on buysnus.com (don't know why exactly -- it's all the same to me, but the free stuff is cool if you order enough), I see no reason not to trust snuskaufenonline.

As for the "cuban" snus itself, as has been mentioned it is a swedish product using Cuban tobacco. It's not as if it is FAR superior to other brands, it is just a different taste experience, and the quality of the tobacco and pouch material is excellent. Some of the best cigars I've smoked to date have been R&J and Montecristo No. 2, so I was very curious to try the snus. At the time I did not realize the cuban brand name was licensed by Taboca in Sweden, but it doesn't matter. After the initial surprise of how different the taste was compared to Grov or something similarly salty (but I do love the Grov), I really grew to like the Montecristo and R&J. Having said that, I'm in no hurry to order more, as I'm still trying lots of different brands. If you like Jakobsson classic a lot, I suggest you try the "cuban" stuff. If you want to get a similar taste and quality without the hassle of using different sites, I also suggest Taboca. Nice tin, and available at buysnus. I love snus.

[Grim]

Ill stand by my case that cuban tobacco is no different than any other.

You do not pay for the quality of tobacco when it comes to cuban.... you are simply paying for a name.

I could grow pot in Cali, Georgia, Amsterdam, Canada and so on. As long as its the same seed in each location itll be the same quality.

Different strains offer differnt tastes but when it comes to cuban you are paying for a name. Nothing more.

[Xobeloot]

I have to argue with you on that comment. Yes you can plant the same seed anywhere, but the growing environment also plays a key role.

IE: I had a little growing setup back in college. I had one setup for hydroponic and one for plain soil. The two plants were completely different, yet from the same seeds.

[RobME]

I could grow pot in Cali, Georgia, Amsterdam, Canada and so on. As long as its the same seed in each location itll be the same quality.

If and when you do, would you send me some?

[Roo]

Grim, I agree to an extent. But tobacco is obviously grown outdoors. The same strain of pot grown outdoors in Oregon vs Mongolia will surely yield different results. But hey, I'm not here to tout the superiority of the "cuban" brand names. We can all agree that there is nothing truly special about it when compared to the great products available made from great tobaccos collected worldwide. I just thought I would put in a few words about it to the original poster who was curious like I was. I definitely agree that you are paying for the brand name with this stuff, but having said that, I didn't find it to be overly expensive either. It's worth a try! plus I'm still at the point of enjoying a very wide variety of brands to see what's out there. Snus on brother!

[RobME]

@ Grim, - I just want to reiterate from my earlier post, that I never said Cuban tobacco is better. I just said it was very different. It has its own character, and for some (not necessarily me) it IS better. And - I do respect your opinion, for you, even if I might not share it.

Regards,

[RobME]

I just thought I would put in a few words about it to the original poster who was curious like I was.

Thanks Roo, I appreciate that you did.

[Reindeer]

I smoke cuban cigars as a hobby

I think the difference between cuban and non-cuban is only because of the quality of tobacco. Actual rolling and work quality is better in dominican republic, but raw material makes the taste.

Somehow I find dominican cigars somehow "dry" taste, compared to cuban mouth-filling earthy coffee tones and strong palette.

I would like to try cuban snus, I have to try to find it next time I travel to sweden...

[Roo]

I can also definitely agree with Reindeer. There is a reason French champaign, Cuban cigars, Bavarian hops, Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee, Florida oranges, Washington apples etc. are regarded as superior... ideal climate for and historical expertise in production of such natural consumer products! But once again, I definitely do not claim anything about R&J or Montecristo snus other than it's worth a try, and pretty damn good at that, but mostly because the manufacturer Taboca and the licensee Cuban companies have a vested interest in making sure it's good shit. At least we can all agree that snus is a real treat, and fun to explore different tastes.

[auggie]

Very condensed, very general history/botany lesson:


Cuban cigars were known since the 19th century worldwide for being close to, if not THE best cigars in the world.

After the US embargo on Cuba, the farmers and numerous tobacconists all scattered to other countries with their tobacco seeds and their knowledge, because a huge chunk of their market was now closed to them.

Meanwhile, Cuban cigars became even more scarce - driving up their price and prestige as supply fell and fell over the years following the embargo.

After a few years, the Cuban expatriot growers and tobacconists were able finally start making their Cuban-seed, non-Cuban-grown cigars from the new and aging tobacco that they'd started to harvest. Expectations and demand were very high for these new cigars, which were sold under the same brand names.

Guess what? The same expertise, and the same strains of tobacco yielded very different cigars when grown in Dominican Republic, Honduras or Camaroon. The soil chemistry and rain that the plant experience is very different from Cuba, even in the hands of some of Cuba's originale tobacconists. Try to google up some pictures of some of the strains of tobacco that get planted in Cuba and also planted in Dominican Republic - they look very different.

Now, coming back the present, there's still a huge demand for Cuban-seed, Cuban-grown, Cuban-rolled bona fide Cuban cigars based on their legendary status. And many, many of the farmers and cigar companies were aware of this. Not being idiots, they realized they could still fill in a niche by producing more cigars that would sell for huge sums of money, even if the quality wasn't ideal, by exporting to Mexico and to some extent also to Europe. Almost invariably since the late-80s, any "Cuban" cigar you've had (afterall, given your strong opinion as to the unremarkable nature of Cuban cigars, I'm right in assuming you have actually had a few?) was one of these newer generation versions.

[reshumate]

Does this mean you can't get Romeo y Julieta from buysnus if you are shipping to the US?

[Xobeloot]

Does this mean you can't get Romeo y Julieta from buysnus if you are shipping to the US?

That is correct. It will be removed from your order upon entering checkout.