Swedish snus could be banned

[precious007]

Yeah, i've been thinking that for a long time now, and the big pharma companies are in on the game. And, i'm sure it's the same two groups of companies that fund the tobacco nazis

of course they are, the pharma is even more dangerous -

I've been reading dozens of articles recently where it's clearly explained how certain virus infections are purposely release from laboratories and then the big pharmas come on the market with the WONDER drug (the exact same people that have released the virus).

in fact from my point of view no medication is SAFE (going of the topic a little), as long as every single damn medication has side effects how could it be safe? Some of them even state that death can occur from a long term use.

Anyways, speaking of scam, there's tons going on in the pharma industry but I still believe that a balanced diet and high spiritual life can heal pretty much everyone. (we HAVE been created to fight any type of illness that our body is affected from, medications, in most cases only worsens the condition (just a personal opinion). In fact illness means NON-BALANCE, yet re-installing that balance can heal the disease.

moreover .. if anyone has ever read stories about chronically ill people that have managed to heal themselves, they all have done it through meditation (spirituality) and with natural herbs.... and NEVER with medications.

It's a scam all along, and that's what going on in the tobacco industry, the big GAYS are paying enough money to keep the snus banned and Sweden is just a fish in the huge ocean, they can't do anything about it, nor can the other EU countries even if they team up.

I wonder if "Make Your Own Snus" kits would be legal in EU lol (that's just plain tobacco and probably some flavor) why would it be illegal?

[Fazer]

Have you ever though about the big tobacco corporations actually paying the EU leaders to endlessly ban SNUS? Philip Morris Tobacco has a market value of over 116 billion, such a wealthy company by all means has all the power in the world to keep the snus banned for as long as they want -

Yeah, i've been thinking that for a long time now, and the big pharma companies are in on the game. And, i'm sure it's the same two groups of companies that fund the tobacco nazis

[Ansel]

lol Jan and Lx. May sound ludicrous but this idea may just float.

[precious007]

It just needs good promoters, contacts, media coverage and support from the manufacturers, at least in my country it would be pretty doable thing

At this point in history, where the financial interest has gone through the bone, into the most important areas of our life and that's HEALTH - the big pharma companies are manipulating doctors to prescribe wrong medication (and that's a fact) that seemingly kills people and so on and so on......

EU simply will not legalize SNUS (and that might be for years to come) simply because of financial interest.

Ok, for those that don't already know, money makes the world move around, without money there would be just poverty, right?

Not all the EU bastards have been getting wealthier and wealthier.... how?

Have you ever though about the big tobacco corporations actually paying the EU leaders to endlessly ban SNUS?

Philip Morris Tobacco has a market value of over 116 billion, such a wealthy company by all means has all the power in the world to keep the snus banned for as long as they want -

It's hilarious because I mentioned in another post of mine that oral tobacco is legal in Romania, snuff is sold in all tobacco shops as well as the indian makla started to sell here and there.................. so why is snus not accepted?

[kevs]

it's hard to get people together for a cause -

especially when we're talking about Brussels EU and all the money drooling bastards

It just needs good promoters, contacts, media coverage and support from the manufacturers, at least in my country it would be pretty doable thing

[precious007]

Really intresting point you have there, religious aspect is always good to add, but for making it official needs a lot of work and knowledge, it's not impossible though. In Estonia there are estimated of 10000-15000 snus users, which makes it 1% of the total 1,5mil population, if all united we could be a strong force!

it's hard to get people together for a cause -

especially when we're talking about Brussels EU and all the money drooling bastards

[kevs]

I was just thinking... would it be possible perhaps to approach this subject from a slightly different angle.... Swedish snus has been recognized by EU as a "cultural things", part of Swedish way of life, a very special heritage and so on.... based on this definition people who use snus , regardless of their country of residence or passports held, are ... swedish (at least to some extent, right?). Are not we as a swedish minority in our respective EU countries entitled to protection of our minority rights??? I am not suggesting legalization of snus (even though that would be the best solution for everybody), what I am referring to is our rights to source the stuff online in order for us to continue with our "swedishness". I know this may sound stupid but that's how I see all this.
It was announced in a German newspaper a few days ago that the small salafist (islamic radicalist) community of merely 4 000 people does not pose danger to security and democracy in Germany and can therefore be tolerated (you might have heard that they are involved in recruiting home and foreign born germans alike to join radicalist groups in Germany, people many of whom are on international terror watch lists). Do the decision makers in Brussels really think that 4 000 or so small SNUSING community of Germany (or of Britain, Denmark.. does not matter) poses a more serious threat to the public than that of the salafists and the level of threat has reached a point when an action in form of new EU directives, bans, etc is required?
Where is logic????????????

Really intresting point you have there, religious aspect is always good to add, but for making it official needs a lot of work and knowledge, it's not impossible though. In Estonia there are estimated of 10000-15000 snus users, which makes it 1% of the total 1,5mil population, if all united we could be a strong force!

[Jan]

That's an interesting thought. You could also play off the religious angle. Create a religion, and mandate snus use as a sacrament. )

GN, Gajane - AKBAR!

[lxskllr]

I was just thinking... would it be possible perhaps to approach this subject from a slightly different angle.... Swedish snus has been recognized by EU as a "cultural things", part of Swedish way of life, a very special heritage and so on.... based on this definition people who use snus , regardless of their country of residence or passports held, are ... swedish (at least to some extent, right?). Are not we as a swedish minority in our respective EU countries entitled to protection of our minority rights??? I am not suggesting legalization of snus (even though that would be the best solution for everybody), what I am referring to is our rights to source the stuff online in order for us to continue with our "swedishness". I know this may sound stupid but that's how I see all this.
It was announced in a German newspaper a few days ago that the small salafist (islamic radicalist) community of merely 4 000 people does not pose danger to security and democracy in Germany and can therefore be tolerated (you might have heard that they are involved in recruiting home and foreign born germans alike to join radicalist groups in Germany, people many of whom are on international terror watch lists). Do the decision makers in Brussels really think that 4 000 or so small SNUSING community of Germany (or of Britain, Denmark.. does not matter) poses a more serious threat to the public than that of the salafists and the level of threat has reached a point when an action in form of new EU directives, bans, etc is required?
Where is logic????????????

That's an interesting thought. You could also play off the religious angle. Create a religion, and mandate snus use as a sacrament. I don't know about the EU, but I think that could gain some traction in the USA. It would take some fighting, but it should be a winnable approach. I'd suggest a splinter Discordian group, where the hotdog is replaced with snus :^)

[Jan]

I was just thinking... would it be possible perhaps to approach this subject from a slightly different angle.... Swedish snus has been recognized by EU as a "cultural things", part of Swedish way of life, a very special heritage and so on.... based on this definition people who use snus , regardless of their country of residence or passports held, are ... swedish (at least to some extent, right?). Are not we as a swedish minority in our respective EU countries entitled to protection of our minority rights??? I am not suggesting legalization of snus (even though that would be the best solution for everybody), what I am referring to is our rights to source the stuff online in order for us to continue with our "swedishness". I know this may sound stupid but that's how I see all this.
It was announced in a German newspaper a few days ago that the small salafist (islamic radicalist) community of merely 4 000 people does not pose danger to security and democracy in Germany and can therefore be tolerated (you might have heard that they are involved in recruiting home and foreign born germans alike to join radicalist groups in Germany, people many of whom are on international terror watch lists). Do the decision makers in Brussels really think that 4 000 or so small SNUSING community of Germany (or of Britain, Denmark.. does not matter) poses a more serious threat to the public than that of the salafists and the level of threat has reached a point when an action in form of new EU directives, bans, etc is required?
Where is logic????????????

Sounds like a back-door idea on how to ban snus. No flavours, plain packaging, only sold from behind closed cabinets, why not try some NRT instead, think of the children etc.

Hopefully Sweden will stand up for it's long time tradition in the EU parliament.

[Fazer]

I just love the last couple lines of this blog

"When anti-smoking groups start helping the cigarette industry, it might be time to stop and rethink the strategy"

http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot....ohibition.html

[Ansel]

Can they ban the Northerner/Oomph purified? Because technically they are not tobacco. And therefore if they were to ban additives from these then they would have ban flavoured nicotine gum etc wouldn't they?

Moreover, could this legally be sold throughout the EU anyway as it is not tobacco is it?

[Ansel]

Can they ban the Northerner/Oomph purified? Because technically they are not tobacco. And therefore if they were to ban additives from these then they would have ban flavoured nicotine gum etc wouldn't they?

[Tom200]

What I think is that if it should come to the worst swedish snus could still be manufactured without these additives. Downside is it would taste differently. Some brands that have been made for nearly 200 years would go out of production.

Relocating production to a non-EU country like Norway? Not sure if it's possible and still won't help if sale of products with these additives are banned.