Swedish snus could be banned

[Naswari]

I know its been suggested many times but why don't the snus manufacturers give the EU the middle finger by labelling the exact same product as nasal snuff.

They could easily turn the tables on the politicians by doing just that,there'd be no way of differentiating between snus and moist dark snuff and there's no way they could stop it being used orally.If they were to do that their products would be legal to sell in EU countries and I'm sure their profits would sky rocket.

The only problem I can see with that is some people might actually try to use it like snuff, would that be a problem?

[heders]

Beautiful! Totally agree. But it seems like this is false alarm:

Google translated site (may be totally crazy):

"Recently, screamed a headline that the EU was thinking prohibit snus in Sweden, "in disguise" (Aftonbladet 19/4). Other media hanging on, politicians of various shades promised to fight for snuff, a responsibility center communications director prophesied a blow for the "whole portfolio", and angry and desperate snuff filled the gaps and comment fields.

First, the evening took an alert journalist contact with those responsible in Brussels to get the facts. The answer? No, there is no decision, not even a suggestion, that "sly way" prohibit snus in Sweden. They discuss the regulation of additives in tobacco products (mainly cigarettes) of a similar nature that are already in the U.S., where "Swedish" snus, although this is still being sold freely."The data must have its source in Sweden," said EU spokesman politely. In plain language: it was a homemade canard that splashed in the Swedish dam."


In Swedish:

http://www.svd.se/opinion/brannpunkt...te_7078827.svd

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

I can not translate it sorry

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Ryker min snusprilla – då ska jag fimpa EU helt
Igår 07:46 Min lyckligaste stund på dagen infinner sig alltid på morgonen, precis när jag har vaknat.
annons:

Jag stapplar ut ur sovrummet, går ostadigt, som på ett tåg, tar stöd i väggarna på min väg mot badrummet. Sköljer mitt ansikte i iskallt vatten. Så sätter jag på kaffe i köket. Står där i min morgonrock, med böjd nacke och väntar. Det löftesrika gurglande ljudet när röret suger upp det sista vattnet.
Häller upp en kopp, placerar morgontidningen framför mig på köksbordet, den är orörd, ah, det blir jag som tar oskulden på den. Och där sitter jag med min tidning och med min heta kopp kaffe och det är då jag tar min första snus för dagen. Den där känslan av morgonprilla innanför överläpp, det sticker till, nej, det kittlar till! Något litet händer med mitt system, som en balans som återupprättas.
Och jag dricker mitt kaffe och det går som en stöt genom hela kroppen, en lust till livet, jag känner en harmoni mellan världen och mig själv, en lycka i att finnas till, en triumf att existera – och samtidigt känner jag en lycklig, porlande oro: låt aldrig den här stunden ta slut.
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Snusandet har givit mig så mycket lycka i livet. Och nu har jag förstått att EU vill ta den ifrån mig. Jag kan inte detaljerna, men de vill förbjuda så många ämnen i snus att det innebär att det inte blir möjligt att tillverka snus längre. This is the end of snusande as we know it, som en person på Swedish Match konstaterade, fast på svenska.
Tro nu inte att jag känner sorg inför beskedet. Jag känner vrede. Jag har snusande att tacka för en hel del, nämligen. Till exempel röker jag inte längre tack vare snuset. Jag är glad för det, eftersom det står fullständigt klart att rökande ger människor cancer.
Ingen har hittills kunnat bevisa för mig att snusande skadar min hälsa. EU vill gärna fortsätta sälja cancer-cigaretter, men snuset vill de förinta. Jag kommer att kämpa för det här. Jag kommer att kämpa så länge som det krävs. Jag accepterar
inte att förlora min lyckligaste stund på dagen. Jag gör det inte!
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Och om jag förlorar, om det ändå blir så att snusen förbjuds i Sverige, vet ni vad jag gör då? Då tar jag fram min gamla uniform som jag har uppe på vinden. Tar på mig den oändligt långsamt. Knäpper knapp efter knapp med emfas. Fäster ordnarna och medaljerna på bröstet, en efter en. Trär på de långa vita handskarna, ställer mig framför en spegel, ser till att de sitter som det ska. Så sätter jag mig vid mitt skrivbord, stoppar in en sista snus innanför läppen, njuter av den med en sista kopp kaffe och så skjuter jag mig själv i huvudet.
Artikel Fr.o.m. AFTONBLADET by Alex Shulman translation om the way

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

GN, Gajane - AKBAR!

I would prefer Arkhiangel Gabriel-Jan

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
EU, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all

EU, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

Ohhh, EU, I despise
Because it means destruction
Of innocent lives

EU means tears
To thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to smoke
And lose their lives
...

It is good for same sex marriage ,it is good for same sex marriage parents adopt baybis , it is good for extremistik organisations and they're rights, it good for loosing national identity , it is good for pharmaceutical company's and WHO( world health organisation , and it is bed for svine flu couse Sweden bout 9 million vacsins but that god dammed Svine Flu was not so pandemic as Pharmatheutical companies was thinking, and it is good for unsatesfyed man and women MP in EU Capital Bruxelles who come to EU council each morning and thinking how to take revenge of common Europian becouse his wife or here husband were not so hot in the bed at night , I thing that is all what it is good for

[Ansel]

GN, Gajane - AKBAR!

We could fight this lunacy with lunacy. We may even get some press coverage and raise the profile of snus. lol

[spirit72]

You say that mate, but if the EU Commission wants to ban flavor additives in tobacco, that would mean suppliers like Toque would be F*^%ed. Toque have 37 "flavours" available, i guess Natural Toast and Original might be ok, but im not sure? What about flavored pipe tobacco ?

Then I guess it's just my luck that my favorites are Toque Natural Toast, Wilson's #22, and F+T High Dry Toast.

As for pipers, it'll just be time for the aromatic smokers to acquaint themselves with matured Virginias, and good ol' knock-your-socks-off English blends.

[lxskllr]

- so what's the EU good for?

Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
EU, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all

EU, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

Ohhh, EU, I despise
Because it means destruction
Of innocent lives

EU means tears
To thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to smoke
And lose their lives
...

[precious007]

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic.

Most people are dormant and don't see clearly what the EU does to all that joined it.

Average wage in Romania before joining EU - $300

Average Wage now - $310.

Money talks

- so what's the EU good for?

And if shit hits the fan, at least we can say we did everything we could.

True, at least trying to bring awareness ... but as I said I am realistic person.

[precious007]

And you sir, seem to be pessimistic just about everything. That's why I say that first thing is to get organized, register the movemend as a NGO, have a proper plan what, when and where to do something. With social media/communication media possibilities we have, all of this can be done, I wouldn't had said this 50 yrs ago under soviet rule. And if shit hits the fan, at least we can say we did everything we could. As long as you sit in your comfortable chair, complaining about EU and it's bans, there is not going to happen not a single thing.

Over and out

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic.

Most people are dormant and don't see clearly what the EU does to all that joined it.

[kevs]

You seem to not understand that as long as the Brussels governors are corrupt you can go out by the millions on the streets and be sent home, that's all there is to it.

Lets assume tomorrow I would give your $2mil to quit snus - you would surely do it, wouldn't you?

then that's what happens with the EU, they've received money to keep the snus banned. (otherwise it would have been legal long now)

And you sir, seem to be pessimistic just about everything. That's why I say that first thing is to get organized, register the movemend as a NGO, have a proper plan what, when and where to do something. With social media/communication media possibilities we have, all of this can be done, I wouldn't had said this 50 yrs ago under soviet rule. And if shit hits the fan, at least we can say we did everything we could. As long as you sit in your comfortable chair, complaining about EU and it's bans, there is not going to happen not a single thing.

Over and out

[precious007]

armed revolution

Be it a revolution THEN!

We need the snus in EU

Of course lx, dictators such as the ones in Brussels or every other one in the history didn't use logic because they didn't have a logic (paranoia suffering people don't have a logic) they only have delusions - logic is a joke these days whereas everywhere people fight for interest /period

but I firmly belive as long as we all team up and get organized

You seem to not understand that as long as the Brussels governors are corrupt you can go out by the millions on the streets and be sent home, that's all there is to it.

Lets assume tomorrow I would give your $2mil to quit snus - you would surely do it, wouldn't you?

then that's what happens with the EU, they've received money to keep the snus banned. (otherwise it would have been legal long now)

[kevs]

That's the attitude that won't let us- the snus users, to do anything to help it legalize. I might be a bit too optimistic, but I firmly belive as long as we all team up and get organized, anything could happen. There comes a point when cigarette companies just can't keep paying to EU, once public voice gets too loud. It just needs determination, organizing and balls of steel. Ofcourse just talking here doesn't change anything...

[lxskllr]

I wonder if "Make Your Own Snus" kits would be legal in EU lol (that's just plain tobacco and probably some flavor) why would it be illegal?

It would be illegal because they said it was illegal. The mistake everyone makes, myself included is attacking the problem using logic. When the logic doesn't add up, we walk away confused. Dictatorships don't use logic. They dictate, and the subjects obey. The only way to win is to stop obeying. That could be civil disobedience, or armed revolution, but logic will never win.