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  • danielan
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    • Apr 2010
    • 1514

    #31
    Argh!

    I typed that in the wrong box... Disregard.

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    • Bigblue1
      Banned Users
      • Dec 2008
      • 3923

      #32
      Originally posted by danielan View Post
      Argh!

      I typed that in the wrong box... Disregard.
      Huh It makes sense to me doc

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      • knucklesnus
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 65

        #33
        People don't understand the chemistry behind food. You shouldn't mix starches with proteins. Rice is said to convert and raise blood sugar, but it is a complex carb. Sometimes I don't think any of the research is worth a piece of shit.

        Oh, now rice is bad because it's converts to sugar. I follow a basic simple rule. I, for the most part do not mix foods. I got a real sensitive stomach. If I eat vegetables, meat and say a potato, my stomach is gurgling for hours.

        So I don't mix them. I eat mostly protein and vegetables during the day, piece of meat by itself for dinner and a complex carb such as a potato, or oat meal before bed. Oat meal I know raises my testosterone levels.

        If I eat ice cream before bed, I wake up with back aches and feel like shit generally. So I don't mix foods and this works out best. If I discipline myself to skip the ice cream and have a potato at 9pm or 10pm an hour or 2 before I go to bed, I'm golden the next day.

        I also take a 500-1000mg tryptophan before bed too. It goes like this. Tryptophan > 5htp > serotonin. Tryptophan competes with protein for uptake so it's best to take it without any protein.

        Want to know the best secret in the world for a good night sleep? I've been doing this for 2 years.


        Morning of early afternoon (A MUST) 15 minutes of cardio. If you start pouring sweat, your done. 10-12 minutes works. But you got to get to the point where you sweat. Cardio 2-3 minutes after that. DONE

        9pm oat meal or potato
        10pm 1-2mg melatonin
        10pm 50mg 5htp or 500mg of tryptophan

        There's nothing better during the day for energy than a tablespoon of fish oil. Stuff gets me up and go.

        My morning regimen consists of 2tsp maca powder, 1/2 tsp ginkgo powder, 1 tsp fish oil, 1/2 banana to get my blood sugar going

        At work I do 3 raw eggs in the blender with organic baby spinach, baby carrots, celery and grapes with water. Makes like 4-5 cups. Drink it down.

        Mid morning. Walnuts, apple, almonds

        Lunch - nice big salad with some chicken or something. Chicken soup. Chicken roll up. NO WHITE BREAD. Here's an experiment. First look at your bread. Look at the 3400 ingredients and ask yourself what you think bread should be made with. That's right. Flour, salt, yeast, water. DONE. Well why the other 3000 ingredients? CHEMICALS = SHELF LIFE.

        Now take a piece of white bread and squish it in your hands. You get a big lumpy ball of sticky shit. Now imagine that in your gut. People wonder why they get depressed. That shit just sits and sits there in your gut and guess what? The gut is where serotonin is synthesized. So, gut health is as important for combating depression. I do a salt water flush every couple months (google it). You'll feel like superman after you do it. BREAD = RUBBISH. We don't have real bread here in the US. We have CRAP BREAD. You want bread? Go to a mom and pop shop in Italy where they make fresh bread daily and throw out what isn't sold and do it again the next day.

        MILK- Don't get me going. Milk is absolute rubbish. Here's a first thought. Do you drink cats milk? Dogs milk? What kind of milk do you drink when your a baby? Cows now produce like 1000x the milk they are genetically designed to produce. How do they get them to produce so much milk? CHEMICALS and DRUGS. Then they load the cows with hormones to produce more milk and antibiotics. People think they are smart drinking 1% and 2% milk. It turns directly to sugar in the blood and goes to fat. Whole milk does not. But the media tells you to drink skim, 1% or 2% to lose weight. I have had sinus infections for 34 years. Every drug, every doctor, every remedy. Want to know the remedy that cured me? No more 6 week colds and 2 months of post nasal drip. Quitting milk. Milk, also contrary to popular belief robs calcium from bones. Got milk? Pasteurization kills all the good stuff in milk.

        These are the same idiots that tell you that all this chemical smart butter is good for you. Well, let some of that "I can't believe it's not butter" sit on a table next to a stick of real butter. Watch what's left after 3 days. The real butter is gone.

        Bacteria are even smarter than us, HAHA.

        Salt. Here's the deal. Salt ain't white. They make it white by a chemical process that strips all the nutrients out of it to make it pretty. Salt is essential for the stomach. But, the right salt
        www.realsalt.com
        Best salt on the planet. All different colors. Loaded with minerals and nutrients. Once you try it, you'll never go back to that crap table salt. There is a difference. I bring a thing of real salt when I go over my relatives houses. They shake their head at me as they use their crap morts table salt. I use the real deal and it brings out the flavor in food like you would never think possible. Beware of the "sea salts" too. Most of them are processed. Most "real" sea salt is greyish, not white.

        I wont even start on soy and GMO's. Now I do eat garbage too. I'm not perfect. I have pizza all the time. But usually chase it with psyllium husk. Anytime I eat rubbish, I do 1tsp before and after. Makes the rubbish slide right on through for a quick exit.

        Psyllium husk is the best thing on earth for gut health. No more pinch it sort. Less toilet paper consumption. Nice solid poops with a nice taper at the end. Can not say enough good about the stuff. Do a cleanse for the bowel with that and bentonite clay to remove all the toxins out of your gut and your golden. Google Psyllium husk and bentonite clay shakes (P+B shake)

        I may sound like a know it all. I'm not. I just take 100% responsibility for my health. I don't run to the doctor every time I get a hangnail like most folks and a lot of the immigrants that come into the country that flood our ER waiting rooms. Uneducated idiots. Doctors are only a last resort as far as I am concerned. Why give your personal power to someone else. There is more information on how to cure anything now more than ever. Just don't get your information all from one place. Be educated, research and research and try things till something works. I will not take any pill unless I absolutely have to.

        I use to get major panic attacks. That's how I got on the lifetime prescription for klonazepam. I don't even need the stuff. Know what caused my first attack? Dunkin donuts coffee with 7 sugars in it loaded with cream. That use to be my breakfast for years. I had to pull over just about every day on the ride to work and get out and walk a 1/2 hour. Heart racing, sweating. I had a Mountain dew to help me if I got too parched from the coffee. Caffeine. I finally realized that caffeine was doing it. So I don't drink the stuff. So by quitting that and coupled with my no fail sleep plan, I'm pretty good on the anxitey front. Well the panic attacks are gone. The only thing that gives me anxiety now is the thought of quitting cigarettes. It's all fear and 90% in the head I think. So the klonazepam will help me through it when I finally make up my mind to quit again.

        So I don't want to give the vibe that I know it all. I do, I know it all for me. The rest of you should take a hard look at what you put in your body before you decide to listen to some frign idiot that tells you that your depressed or your bipolar. Everyone is f'n bipolar. Who's not had ups and downs? I have em all day long. But what I don't have is that dread feeling anymore. Pacing back and forth in the basement, depressed out of my mind, pounding beers.

        I figured out that it was a nutrient deficiency and I researched for months and months. I cured my tiredness during the process with a wonderful suppliment called tyrosine. 500-1500mg in the morning and afternoon for 2 months, coupled with diet modification described above, 5htp and tryptophan. Fish oil and lots and lots of protein and fatty meats. Not the bullshit lean meats that CNN tells you you should be eating.

        Every type of meat and protein I eat is high fat and I'm 14% body fat at last measurement by a friend who is a personal trainer. I watch all the overweight people sit there with their healthy choice microwave lunch loaded with 12,000 chemicals. I watch them drink their diet coke. I listen to them tell me my cholesterol is probably way high because of all the fatty foods I eat. Just about everything the media tells you about dieting is WRONG. We're the diet capital of the world and the fattest nation in the world. We're probably the most depressed nation in the world as far as depression goes too. But we got a pill for that, don't worry. Side effects may include headache, insomnia, viral infection, bronchitis, stroke, fibromyalgia (another BS diagnosis) heart attach and death.

        Be smart. Be a scientist in your own life. Don't give your personal power to anyone else but YOU!



        Oh don't eat fat. Want to lose weight, don't eat fat.

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        • Joe234
          Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1948

          #34
          Originally posted by knucklesnus View Post

          Now if I could get off cigarettes, I'd actually finally know what it feels like to feel really good.
          Are you using Extra Starks? Did you say you only smoked cigs for one year?
          Some of us had smoked 30+ years and quit within days. I suspect you may
          have an OCD thing with cigs. That or nicotine is helping you with an imbalance.

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          • knucklesnus
            Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 65

            #35
            Here's the deal. I have every type of snus there is. The stuff is about 5 months old, some of it. But it's always been in the freezer. I have not smoked just 1 year. A lot longer than that.

            I just can not seem to get a buzz off nicotine unless it's in cigarettes. That's my problem. I'm using nasal snuff too. I think I'm immune to nicotine

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            • Joe234
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 1948

              #36
              Originally posted by knucklesnus View Post
              Here's the deal. I have every type of snus there is. The stuff is about 5 months old, some of it. But it's always been in the freezer. I have not smoked just 1 year. A lot longer than that.

              I just can not seem to get a buzz off nicotine unless it's in cigarettes. That's my problem. I'm using nasal snuff too. I think I'm immune to nicotine
              OK. Sorry. I thought someone said they had been smoking for one year. I see you've smoked
              for 22 years. Hmmm? Not sure what to say? I can't imagine 6 types of snus an hour not working.

              You've tried Extra Starks right?

              What about Zyban with it? How about some more will power? Simply don't smoke
              and be glad you have snus. I would cut back all the nicotine if I were you. Can you
              counsel with someone?

              I find exercise is good for relieving the need for a smoke. Try walking or anything.


              Let us know how you're doing.

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              • Nightfirez
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 36

                #37
                i dont think you can become imune to any form of chemical you put in your system you just over time build tollerance levels towards them

                you will probably find chemicaly the buz from smokeing isnt caused from nicotine as with that much snus as your disposal there will be enough in your system all ready .

                its more likely caused by all the other crap in cigs which are addictive when i first switched to snus from cigs i knew i was getting more than enough nic getting headakes and nausua from nic over dose but yet i still craved a cig and they still gave me a buzz or at least a light headed feeling but that was certanaly not caused by the nicotine i was getting from them

                personaly ive recently switched my diet following cleaneating.com's recipys and joined a gym and use it every day and i can honnestly say hand on heart i have never felt so good in the last 20 years
                this has all stemed from me switching to snus and realising there is a healthier option

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                • knucklesnus
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 65

                  #38
                  have extra starks. I don't get it. I went 1 day last week without a problem. No fear, felt good. The next day bam. FAIL. Always in the morning the panic starts in. I got up and threw in a snus and had some snuff too. Tonight I'm going to sit down and write on my note card all the things I hate about cigarettes. Mainly doing this for the past 5 years. The constant torture of quitting. I got to put this to bed finally and just do it. The problem is that I think at some subconscious level the smoking is serving me in some way. Don't know what that is though. But I really am fvcking tired of this.

                  Zyban, Wellbutrin? Tried them both and they made me shake uncontrollably. I'll never touch another psychoactive pharmaceutical ever again.

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                  • Nightfirez
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 36

                    #39
                    The problem is that I think at some subconscious level the smoking is serving me in some way
                    got it in one I spent a month reminding myself each time I wanted a cig and popped a snus in that there is more nicotine in it and its better for me eventually my mind has relented and decided that it is lol even though I was still craving whatever it is in cigarettes that my brain needed to feel satisfied

                    Other than eating healthier and getting some exercise the only other thing ive changed since giving up is my hydration levels which over the Corse of a month or 2 has let me be more relaxed and focused so I guess there was something to the 8/10 glass a day and drink less caffeine lol

                    The only other thing that I guess has helped is ive kept my same smoking rituals go for what would be my fag breaks but snus instead of smoke
                    it is a hard habit to kick subconsciously you have become reliant on smoking and it triggers " relax time " I guess you could call it usually in a stressful situation you crave a cig you go have one and during that time your smoking you relax a little And reflect on the situation or event which is what generally relaxes you just remember to take a 10 min time out and have a coffee / snus or something

                    when I first quit with snus after 3 days of not smoking I had 1 cig just to see I got a light headed feeling (carbon monoxide/ formaldehyde induced) my chest felt tight and I was short of breath and quietly to myself I said I don’t want to feel like that again.
                    So I just kept on snusing another few weeks go by and after a really bad day I had another cig, same thing again light headed tight chest sore throat and smelt like an ash tray but still that tiny me in my head said I don’t want to feel like that.. I didn’t torture myself over having a smoke but instead used it to point out to myself that I didn’t actually need it smoking made me feel worse rather than better! Once that finally clicked in my subconscious it’s become a whole lot easer .

                    If you do a list you will see that the positives of quitting far outweigh the negatives of staying a smoker just focus on the good things and take it one day at a time if your smoking less be positive about it after all it is a good step . Try not to think of it as torture or a heavy task

                    Subconscious habits do take a good while to break down and stop but each step you take will get you to your goal sure some days it’s a rough road to take but still you can look back at what you have achieved and feel happy about it which will spur you on

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                    • Mr. Snuffleupagus
                      Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2781

                      #40
                      Knucklesnus, that sucks you are having a tough time. I agree that there is something about real smoking that is hard to replace. Maybe you could just keep smoking when you feel like it and still dramatically reduce the number of cigs. That alone is a big deal IMO. I don't smoke cigs anymore, but I still get my real smoke ritual by smoking a pipe or cigar once in a while. There is something mystical about it. Anyways good luck, I hope something works out for you.

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                      • justintempler
                        Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 3090

                        #41
                        Knucklesnus,

                        If you've been trying to quit for a year. you could try a different strategy. I had smoked for 38 years and was up to 2-3 packs of Marlboro Reds when I quit. When I quit I still allowed myself a "weekend pack" of cigarettes. I think a lot of the problem is the psychological idea that you are depriving yourself of something that you know you can't have. The more you can't have it, the more you want it..... Forbidden fruit. By having a weekend pack , it made it a lot easier to deal with cigarette cravings during the week. Just reassure yourself you are still allowed to smoke but that you'll have to wait til Friday night. I think one weekend I cheated and bought 2 packs, but within 2 months that weekend pack became one pack every two weeks, then it became a pack a month. Within 6 months I had completely lost the urge to smoke.

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                        • Joe234
                          Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1948

                          #42
                          Originally posted by knucklesnus View Post

                          Zyban, Wellbutrin? Tried them both and they made me shake uncontrollably. I'll never touch another psychoactive pharmaceutical ever again.
                          You're probably smart not to use them.

                          Have you tried vigorous exercise? it works wonders for anxiety.

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                          • knucklesnus
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 65

                            #43
                            Yeah, I run at least 1 mile per day and do 500 crunches and 500 pushups (not all at once) every other day. That + Maca + fish oil + tyrosine and 5-htp works wonders for the anxiety. I don't get panic attacks anymore. Just the usual panic of running out of a pack of smokes. Well I just smoked my last 2 marlboro 100's after dinner. Here I go!!!

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                            • Joe234
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1948

                              #44
                              I guess everyone is different.

                              I went from a pack of Winstons daily to none in a few days.
                              I didn't plan to quit this fast. I went to 4 cigs the next day,
                              then 3, then 2, then none.

                              I had smoked for well over 30 years, sometimes 3 packs daily.
                              I've quit all the manmade drugs, including street crap. I quit
                              booze too. 20 years ago some considered me an alcoholic.

                              I have 66 days without a single puff of tobacco.

                              You can do it. How about going somewhere camping away
                              from cigarettes?

                              The best is the county jail. Quite seriously everyone in there quits
                              cold turkey. You'd be amazed how people get over nicotine in
                              a couple of weeks.

                              You can do it. You won't die. Try REBT. ( Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy.) Albert Ellis-SMART Recovery

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                              • bover907
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                                • May 2010
                                • 24

                                #45
                                My wife still smokes, and I end up smoking about 5 cigarettes a day. Sometimes less, sometimes more. Once or Twice, I bought a pack of cigs. Reason being, I was still asleep when she left for work (we work different shifts, unfortunately). This has been going on for the 2 months or so I've been snusing. I just tell myself that 5 cigs a day are much better 25 to 35 a day! I think sooner or later I'll be able to kick it.

                                The other posters are right, it all does start with the morning smoke.

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