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  • Sal1000us
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    • Jan 2009
    • 384

    #31
    Kum, I think you were exhibiting some of the nicotine poisoning symptoms. Maybe one too many pris or portions? Here are some of the symptoms from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

    Death
    Vomiting and nausea, diarrhea
    Headaches
    Difficulty breathing
    Pallor
    Sweating
    Palpitations
    Stomach pains/cramps
    Seizures
    Weakness
    Drooling

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    • texasmade
      Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 4159

      #32
      Originally posted by Sal1000us
      Kum, I think you were exhibiting some of the nicotine poisoning symptoms. Maybe one too many pris or portions? Here are some of the symptoms from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

      Death
      Vomiting and nausea, diarrhea
      Headaches
      Difficulty breathing
      Pallor
      Sweating
      Palpitations
      Stomach pains/cramps
      Seizures
      Weakness
      Drooling
      drooling and sweating one could deal with...death..that would kinda suck

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      • JBean
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 445

        #33
        Originally posted by texasmade
        Originally posted by Sal1000us
        Kum, I think you were exhibiting some of the nicotine poisoning symptoms. Maybe one too many pris or portions? Here are some of the symptoms from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

        Death
        Vomiting and nausea, diarrhea
        Headaches
        Difficulty breathing
        Pallor
        Sweating
        Palpitations
        Stomach pains/cramps
        Seizures
        Weakness
        Drooling
        drooling and sweating one could deal with...death..that would kinda suck
        drooling and sweating? well thats i problem i have anyways.. how will i know!?

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        • texasmade
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          • Jan 2009
          • 4159

          #34
          lol you might be part bulldog...id check with your local vet

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          • JBean
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            • Jan 2009
            • 445

            #35
            or i could just wait to see if i start to seize.....

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            • texasmade
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              • Jan 2009
              • 4159

              #36
              yes that to...also the stomache pains and cramps wouldnt really help either(would on my part cuz i dont have "the cycle" lol)

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              • Sal1000us
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                • Jan 2009
                • 384

                #37
                This is hard to believe since the lethal dosage according to the text corresponds to about 15 - 20 portions a day.

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                From: http://www.wisegeek.com/is-nicotine-dangerous.htm

                According to Poison/Toxicology by Jay Arena, the lethal dosage of nicotine for a 150 pound (68kg) male is 60mg. This is less than both arsenic and strychnine. American cigarettes contain approximately 9mg of nicotine each (compare with 19mg in a New Zealand cigarette), but after burning, only about 1mg enters the body over the course of smoking an entire cigarette. While this results in amounts well below the lethal dosage, over time this poison can weaken the immune system and cause fatigue and other minor maladies.

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                • texasmade
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4159

                  #38
                  i go through about that many a day sometimes more...ouldnt be the problem..but then again i have a high tolerance for alot of things...

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                  • sagedil
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 7077

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sal1000us
                    This is hard to believe since the lethal dosage according to the text corresponds to about 15 - 20 portions a day.
                    No it's not. Far less of the nicotine is actually taken up by the body...

                    Important research results on Swedish snus:

                    * Less than half the amount of nicotine present in a pinch of snus is extracted during snus use.
                    * Only 10-20 % of the nicotine present in a pinch of snus is absorbed via the mucous membrane and reaches the systemic circulation. This means that only 1-2 mg of nicotine is absorbed into the blood from a one gram pinch containing ca 10 mg of nicotine.
                    * Nicotine is absorbed quite rapidly from Swedish snus.
                    * Studies on Swedish snus users have shown that the plasma steady-state levels of nicotine and its main metabolite, cotinine, are similar in Swedish snus users and cigarette smokers.
                    * Snus users and cigarette smokers, who have similar blood nicotine levels, have reported similar levels of subjective dependence on tobacco.
                    * The total nicotine uptake (dose) measured as the excretion of nicotine and its metabolites per 24 hours is similar in habitual snus users and cigarette smokers, i.e. 25 mg.
                    * In contrast to cigarette smokers, snus users do not compensate their nicotine uptake when switching to a low nicotine product. A decrease of the nicotine content of snus by 50 % results in a decrease of the nicotine uptake by about 50 %.
                    * An experimental cross-over study of blood plasma levels obtained after controlled snus use of four different portion-packed snus products of various weight and format, different nicotine content and different pH values showed that the nicotine intake varies between 0.4 and 1.2 mg per pinch.


                    http://www.swedishmatch.com/en/Snus-...cotine-uptake/

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                    • JBean
                      Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 445

                      #40
                      Originally posted by texasmade
                      yes that to...also the stomache pains and cramps wouldnt really help either(would on my part cuz i dont have "the cycle" lol)
                      ha ha ha.. I would know depending on the day of my "cycle".

                      as for the ODing info... that seems a bit lowballed... maybe its for ppl who have no immunity to nicotine?

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                      • bearcat87
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                        • Nov 2008
                        • 400

                        #41
                        I wonder what they constitute a pinch to be? Is it a gram, half gram? That could really change some of the statements on that site.

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                        • texasmade
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                          • Jan 2009
                          • 4159

                          #42
                          lol
                          and...yea no immunity would suck also

                          and according to what sage found...it would take about...roughly 3 to 4 tins of snus to od...haha super snuser

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                          • Sal1000us
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 384

                            #43
                            Correction:

                            the lethal dosage of nicotine is not 60mg per day but 60mg in one sitting which is like smoking 60 cigs in a couple of minutes or different way of saying it would be having 60 mg of nictotine in the body an any instance.

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                            • JBean
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                              • Jan 2009
                              • 445

                              #44
                              ah.. that makes much more sense...

                              so.. an IV of nicotine would be bad idea I'm assuming

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                              • texasmade
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 4159

                                #45
                                Originally posted by JBean
                                ah.. that makes much more sense...

                                so.. an IV of nicotine would be bad idea I'm assuming
                                not at all =)
                                as long as you dont inject 60mg at once

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