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  • kum
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 39

    #1

    a very bad experience...

    Hello forum!

    I'm a new snuser, and, how things seem now, I may already be an ex-snuser!

    So, I took my first snus a few days ago. I wanted to try it and get rid of cigarettes if possible. But it didn't go how I expected... This will be a lengthy post, but I have no other way to tell this story. I browsed this forum for days and I found loads of great information, but I didn't stumble upon a story like mine. So here goes...

    First day. I started with a portion of Knox. It was morning, I didn't eat anything and I had a hangover, so that was a bad idea. It smelled bad, tasted horrible and made me a bit sick. So I threw it away, waited a few hours till I felt better, ate something and decided to start over. This time it was General Mini. Just what I needed. I started to like the saltiness and the taste of the juice, I didn't feel the need for the ciggies and the mini portion seemed like a good dose for a start. So I used 4-5 minis that day, plus one Skruf original portion in the evening.

    Second day. I decided to go with normal potions, but not too much. During the day I took maybe 4 Skrufs, one Goteborgs Rape and 1 or 2 General mini portions. Still everything's fine, no ciggies, I like snus and snus likes me.

    Third day. The terrible headache wakes me up. I feel dizzy and in pain. I'm trying to sleep, but end up rolling around in sweat for 2 hours. I feel sick during all of this so I go to the bathroom and throw up. After that I manage to fall asleep. A few hours later I'm awake with only minor headache. I decide not to take any snus today, just in case. Since I'm feeling a bit better in the evening, I take one General white portion. I don't feel like using it whole, so I spit it out after 15 minutes (and that's the only snus I've had during the whole day). After half an hour, I get dizzy, my headache returns and I even have some visual disorder that makes me hard to focus. I decide to go lay down a bit, but that's when the horror begins. My stomach feels like it's up my throat, my head is pumping, I'm sweating like mad and my mouth are dry no matter how much water I drink. I deside to go throw up again, but the headache is so severe I can't make myself throw up, all that straining makes me feel like my head is gonna explode. After about 2 hours of agony, I start vomiting like crazy. There's a lot of brown matter in the vomit, and I'm pretty sure it's tobacco juice. I'm also pretty sure that's what made all of this happen. So after some more agony, I finally fall asleep again. After probably 10 hours of sleep, I wake up (that's day 4 now) feeling headache again. Not so severe, but it's here. And now, a few hours ago, the headache is gone, but I'm completely exhaused and I feel like not touching snus ever again.

    So, any thoughts on this? Could it be that I'm just not for snus? That my stomach just can't take nicotine in that form?
  • RobsanX
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 2030

    #2
    How much do you smoke? If you are a light smoker, then you might not be used to the amount of nicotine in snus.

    Have you ever used any other type of smokeless tobacco? If not, your stomach was probably not ready for it.

    If you want to continue using snus, then definitely stick with minis like Wise, Mocca, etc.

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    • sychodelix
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 280

      #3
      Never heard of this kind of thing happening before. Sounds to me like you might have been sick in the first place, but I'm not sure. If you've never used dip before snus, it might just be your bodies reaction to it initially. You may really wanna stick with mini portions and take it nice and slow, and try to avoid large amounts of alcohol and DEFINITELY avoid drinking tons of caffeine while using it. As you'll read on a few other posts, nicotine and high amounts of caffeine can make you VERY sick.

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      • holnrew
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 613

        #4
        My first reaction is that it's an unrelated illness, but it could be some sort of allergic reaction.

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        • jnkyo07
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 48

          #5
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          ya, maybe you had the flu or something....but i don't really swallow the juice that much, so maybe if you still wanna quit smoking bad enough, just spit out the juice...but wait a few days to let your body ease up and whatnot...good luck

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          • bearcat87
            Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 400

            #6
            I'm going with a possible allergic reaction or illness. The only time I have ever had a bad experience with snus was when I double barreled extra sterk. I didn't get sick I just felt like shit for about four hours and didn't want any snus for about 8 hours.

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            • TBD
              Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 817

              #7
              This same thing went through my household recently. It's just a stomach virus. Headache and all. I would guess it has nothing to do with snus. Although when I got it was my first days with snuff, and I was pretty concerned. I still can't look at that brand of snuff now.
              Wait a couple of days and try again.

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              • kum
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 39

                #8
                Hey guys,

                Thanks for all the responses.

                I know about the stomach virus, it's a season for it now and it also went through my house. But this is different. It lasted for just one day and I had no temperature. So it can't be the virus thing, it lasts for days, involves temperature, doesn't come so rapidly etc.

                I'm not a light smoker, nicotine is surely not what bothers me. But I have a pretty sensitive digestive system. A few years ago I accidentally dropped a cigarette in my beer. I drank the beer without knowing the cigarette is inside. After that I was vomiting literally all night. I stopped counting after throwing up for the 20th time.

                I'm not done with snus yet. I like the taste and I like the fact it keeps me off ciggies. I'll wait for a few days and try really slowly next time. I'm outta mini portions, but I'll take normal portions for only 15 minutes or so, for a start.

                But I don't think I could ever spit snus juice. That means I should spit all the time and besides, I like the taste.

                Oh and this forum is great with all the info and cool people. I'll let you know how my snusing goes from here!

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                • JBean
                  Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 445

                  #9
                  I know the first week or 2 when I started snus, I would even get a little nauseous from swallowing the juice and I have a stomach of steel mostly. I think its something your system just has to get used to.

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                  • texasmade
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 4159

                    #10
                    yea..nic and caffiene...not fun...in large amounts..
                    nor isl arge amounts of nicotine in a short amount of time...

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                    • JBean
                      Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 445

                      #11
                      Originally posted by texasmade
                      yea..nic and caffiene...not fun...in large amounts..
                      nor isl arge amounts of nicotine in a short amount of time...
                      I don't know.. nicotine, caffiene, and I hang out together all the time and we have a blast! maybe I just haven't overdone it as of yet...

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                      • Mr. Snuffleupagus
                        Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2781

                        #12
                        Just the fact you're not smoking ciggs can make you sick. Your body needs time to adjust to not having all that crap from ciggs. It took me a while to go from the minis to regular portions as well. I would use minis in the morning and move up later in the day. Now I mostly use loose, so I can adjust the size of pris to how I feel at the time. Keep at it and take it easy. If the minis are working just keep using them. It can take up to 6 months for your body to adjust from not having ciggs. I hope it works out for you. It's worth it for sure. Just takes time.

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                        • texasmade
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 4159

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JBean
                          Originally posted by texasmade
                          yea..nic and caffiene...not fun...in large amounts..
                          nor isl arge amounts of nicotine in a short amount of time...
                          I don't know.. nicotine, caffiene, and I hang out together all the time and we have a blast! maybe I just haven't overdone it as of yet...
                          yea me and niccy and caf have a good time everyday...but overdoing it...as in double portion...or triple =D..then oh idk some rockstar and coffe afterwards...not a good idea

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                          • JBean
                            Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 445

                            #14
                            ah.. see I keep away from double/triple portions. Just never felt the need for it.

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                            • texasmade
                              Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 4159

                              #15
                              yea i got bored...hehe...couldnt resist..

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