Snus and Oral Hygiene, Gingivitis, Toothpaste, etc

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  • darkwing
    Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 415

    #16
    I guess I am one who prefers the white portions - I find the juice oozing around my mouth and throat from other portions unpleasant. Brown spittle.

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    • lxskllr
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #17
      Originally posted by darkwing
      I guess I am one who prefers the white portions - I find the juice oozing around my mouth and throat from other portions unpleasant. Brown spittle.
      I like that bit of run you get from regular portions :lol: I move it around to control the flow rate, but I find the sensation pleasurable. White portions are ok, but I find them a bit too dry.

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      • Soft Morning, City!
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 772

        #18
        To go back on what I said earlier, I now prefer the Lucky Strike Whites over the Originals. I leave them on my tongue for a bit to get them moist and then stick them in my upper lip and they feel just like the regular ones. But the reason I like them better is because the flavor lasts much, much longer. With the regulars, the flavor was great but it depleted far too quickly. The whites just keep on going.

        Still, that being said, I still prefer the originals when it comes to other brands. For instance, Ettan. I haven't tried the whites, but I have no desire to do so. The originals are just too damn good.

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        • lxskllr
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 13435

          #19
          Originally posted by Soft Morning, City!
          To go back on what I said earlier, I now prefer the Lucky Strike Whites over the Originals.

          Hmm, I wonder if I screwed up? I just ordered a roll of Lucky originals assuming I always prefer standard to white portions. I'll have to get a can of the white next time I order.

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          • Soft Morning, City!
            Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 772

            #20
            lxskllr:

            Oh, the originals are just fine, don't get me wrong. The flavor is basically the same for both, and I love the flavor. Lately I've just found that the flavor of the whites lasts longer.

            I think you'll like the originals just fine. I loved them. But I really would recommend trying the whites sometime. I just keep them in for a long time and the whites are more applicable to this situation, at least for me.

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            • lxskllr
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 13435

              #21
              No real worries. I think the Lucky originals are great. My concern is that the whites may be even greater :P I haven't liked white portions as much in general, so I didn't even consider them for the Luckys. I am gonna try a can though next time I place an order. Not sure when that'll be though. When my current order comes in, I'll have about 70 cans of snus on hand :P

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              • Snusburgh
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 21

                #22
                Sunflower Seeds

                I have dipped snuff and used snus since I was 15 years old (now 35) the worst cheek and gum problems I ever had were with sunflower seeds trying to quit. I have had my gums and lips checked and I went to Snus about 3 years ago exclusively and fell back to dip snuff and now back to snus. The moral, I will never quit nicotine, I will snus above all, it has a better track record and is just better. The IKEA ceo said and I paraphrase "It is better not to put a poison in your body, but I have choosen the safest". Snusburgh

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                • Skadelphius
                  New Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 12

                  #23
                  back to the subject at hand

                  going back to the health discussion, i thought id add that i have gum recession problems (dont know why, since im still a youngster--i think i brush too hard...) but ive never had recession on the teeth in the area of where i put the snus. just goes to show, good oral health practices are probably most important for your mouth, rather than snusing or not snusing

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                  • Soft Morning, City!
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 772

                    #24
                    Oddly enough, my gums appear to be healthier now than they were before I started using snus. They used to be kind of puffy, but that has since gone away and they look very pink and healthy. I can't wait to hear what my dentist has to say when I have my next appointment in January.

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                    • RealmofOpeth
                      Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 407

                      #25
                      well I'll say that I've gotten some gum recess on my two front teeth. more-so on my right front tooth, which is where i use snus the most.

                      i look closely, and i can see the enamel ends - its shiny, then there's a slight line where it starts to look unshiny.
                      the gum line looks strange. you know how the gumline on your teeth is usually rounded? well the recessed part looks rounded, on top of the roundness of the normal gumline.

                      can gumline regenerate to normal position?
                      can this exposing of the tooth from the recession screw up the tooth?

                      i would hate to have to lose my front tooth. **** that shit!

                      I've also noticed I have a few hairline cracks in my front teeth. I think it has only become noticeable recently.

                      i've never practiced good oral hygiene. a tube of toothpaste could last a year for me, normally. i just never got in the habit. i have a few fillings of course, but they have rarely ached, and my teeth aren't WHITE but they're not as yellow or screwed up as you think they would be, per the propaganda of lacking oral hygiene. I also mysteriously lack bad breath most of the time. I do however brush my teeth when they feel bad and the taste in my mouth is rotten (or if i just want to make sure my breath doesnt stink and my teeth are a little whiter than normal if there's a woman i don't want to turn off). now that i've been using snus a while, i've been brushing more often to get the stuff out of my teeth. so i'd say the use of snus has given me incentive to use better oral hygiene. having a girlfriend also is an incentive. lol. however I'm not sure if it's getting cancelled out if snus is putting my gums/teeth at risk.

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                      • lxskllr
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        #26
                        Recessed gums won't come back. When I went to the dentist, she said I had 1mm of recession in my primary snus spot. I'm trying to be more diligent about moving it around. Your teeth will be more likely to corrode in the recessed areas due to the missing protective enamel.

                        I don't think the cracks are caused by the snus. My guess is they're just getting tobacco stain inside already existing cracks, making them more noticeable.

                        Try to make brushing your teeth a little more routine. I have a bit of an issue with that myself. I always brush at least once per day, but the majority of the time I go to bed, it's with a dirty mouth. Any acids or bacteria in there can have free reign while sleeping to screw up your teeth. Brush twice per day, if only once make sure it's before bed, and use gentle strokes with a soft bristled brush. Keep an eye on things, and try to get to a dentist. It can be a little pricy, but you only get one set of teeth. It's better keeping the ones you have in your mouth, than getting a new set you take out every night ;^)

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                        • databat
                          Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 66

                          #27
                          I had bad teeth even before I ever smoked, dipped, or snused. Actually my teeth have been whiter since i switched to snus, and cut back on the coffee. I still drink a fair amount of tea, but I usually use a straw.

                          My poor oral health is mainly due to not having dental insurance. It's just too expensive to go. I do the best I can though. I've had quite a few cavities for a while now. They're minor ones, but they aren't getting any worse. I don't eat much candy either. Usually after drinking a soda I drink a glass of water to dilute the sugar in my mouth. I brush twice a day, floss, and use a dental scraper to get to those hard to reach areas. Occasionally I will rinse with a diluted solution of peroxide. (being very careful not to swallow) So far things haven't gotten any worse.

                          Receding gums can grow back, but the process is slow, and you have to work at it. About five years ago I noticed lower gum recession when I was dipping Copenhagen. I only dipped one tin a week. I purchased this little dental tool with a rubber tip on the end. (dunno what it's called) I use it to massage my gums. (Stimulates blood flow to those areas) I also switched sides, and began drinking more water. Five years later there is a noticeable difference in my gum line in that area. I also brush with harder bristle tooth brushes as well. I brush my teeth, gums (being gentle), and my tongue. I find that the harder bristle tooth brushes get my teeth cleaner, as well as strengthen my gums. When I first started this they bled. (a sign of gingivitis) Over time they bled less and less until it finally stopped. I also try to avoid popcorn as the kernels can get stuck between the gum and the teeth, causing major problems.

                          Generally, if your gums hurt after eating crunchy foods like dry cereal, etc. then you may have gingivitis or sensitive/weak gums. I also take (don't laugh) flintstone multi-vitamins. Nutrition plays an important role in oral health, as well as overall health. Besides, there is just something satisfying about biting off barney's head. :P

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                          • 1wilco
                            New Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 7

                            #28
                            flintstone vitamins are the best, I took them when I was 5 and still do decades later, reminds me of the good ol' days. Plus, I get to take more at one time now.

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                            • velinn
                              Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 39

                              #29
                              What is the overall impact of receding gums anyway? I read something on the Swedish Match site that said something along the lines if (paraphrasing), even if you do get receding gums there is no risk of tooth loss because there is still plenty of gum on both sides and the back of the tooth.

                              I know that by exposing the root you'll become more sensitive to temperature and cavities are more apt because that part of the tooth isn't protected.. but honestly, that is pretty common in America anyway, even without snus. I read something that stated about 80% of Americans have some form of periodontal disease (probably due to health care being so stupid here).

                              If receding gums is basically just a cosmetic thing than I don't find myself really caring all that much. 15 years of smoking and coffee have ensured that I'm never going to have a Hollywood smile anyway.

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                              • holnrew
                                Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 613

                                #30
                                I had a look at my gums tonight and there is a definite recession on my front left tooth, which is nothing to do with snusing, just poor oral hygiene in the past.

                                Since I started snusing I've been religiously cleaning my teeth twice a day, so it's probably being quite good for my gums.

                                Sometimes teeth where I have fillings get snus juice on them and they kind of hurt... is this normal?

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