Ecstasy has once been legal in the U.S

[precious007]

Pretty long documentary, but interesting how ecstasy was legally sold and advertised in the U.S

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ecstasy-rising/

[Monkey]

Everything was legal once...

At least we will still have our gin.

[precious007]

Everything was legal once...

At least we will still have our gin.

Snus was never legal in the E.U

there you go, loool :P

[MGX]

Surely it was legal before it was made unlawful.

[snusjus]

From my understanding, MDMA has profound therapeutic effects. Today, it is legal to administer with permission from the feds.

Another thing: the government is prescribing low doses of LSD to some veterans suffering from PTSD. At least its safer and more effective than antidepressants and other pharmaceuticals.

[Snus Boost]

It should be legal again since it has been absolute GARBAGE since about 2002.

[precious007]

From my understanding, MDMA has profound therapeutic effects. Today, it is legal to administer with permission from the feds.

Another thing: the government is prescribing low doses of LSD to some veterans suffering from PTSD. At least its safer and more effective than antidepressants and other pharmaceuticals.

LSD can induce psychosis, I wouldn't have it even if the doctors would prescribe me LSD.

[timholian]

Clubs in Dallas, Texas used to have MDMA nights where you paid so much at the doors and received a drink laced with MDMA in the 1980s.

Cary Grant was giving LSD by his therapist back in the day.....
An American baseball player pitched a no-hitter for the Pittsburgh Pirates while on LSD in the 70's.

Personal body chemistry is a powerful thing.... But just because Joe Blow doesn't like it doesn't or has had negative side effects doesn't mean that EVERYBODY will have the same reaction. Just saying'.

[precious007]

Clubs in Dallas, Texas used to have MDMA nights where you paid so much at the doors and received a drink laced with MDMA in the 1980s.

Cary Grant was giving LSD by his therapist back in the day.....
An American baseball player pitched a no-hitter for the Pittsburgh Pirates while on LSD in the 70's.

Personal body chemistry is a powerful thing.... But just because Joe Blow doesn't like it doesn't or has had negative side effects doesn't mean that EVERYBODY will have the same reaction. Just saying'.

it's not about "reaction"

it's about LDS's consequences on the long run on the body and mind.....

I know a lot of people are playing "TOUGH" but I am familiar with cases of suicide from LCD, cocaine, heroine..... and even cannabis.

Shall I remind of Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett that has ruined his entire life and went psychotic after 2 or 3 years of cannabis and LSD use...... yet 2 - 3 years of drug use has ruined another 60 years of his life (not worth it at all) ........

Cary Grant was giving LSD by his therapist back in the day....

well his therapist was just as mad as he was looool ......

Personal body chemistry is a powerful thing

How powerful can you fly and the rest of us can't ?

Hilarious....... What does body chemistry have to do with taking drugs? NOTHING. Drugs are highly addictive chemicals ..... no need say more lol

I am quite amused when some people try to sustain and literally "PROMOTE" drugs as non-dangerous.... and even like talking about their experiences.... and suddenly end up in rehabs .... well it's their choice ... but not a good one at all...

First of all apart from the health issues, drugs pretty much all of them at some point ... basically will make a ghost out of you and you'll be hardly able to socilaze ... get a decent job.... make friends and so on.........

[timholian]

it's not about "reaction"

it's about LDS's consequences on the long run on the body and mind.....

I know a lot of people are playing "TOUGH" but I am familiar with cases of suicide from LCD, cocaine, heroine..... and even cannabis.

I know for a fact there are people that have used snus then killed themselves or others.... Does that mean that snus is responsible?

How about we blame people for their actions and not their habits. People get excuses everyday..... This is just another.

[snusjus]

LSD can induce psychosis, I wouldn't have it even if the doctors would prescribe me LSD.

Agreed. However, all drugs have negative side effects, including "legal" ones. If LSD is administered in small doses, the probability of psychosis is negated -- most develop LSD-induced psychosis after prolonged, heavy use of the drug.

[timholian]

LMAO What does body chemistry have to do with it? Really?

Never mind then.... No use in having a discussion with someone who clearly knows nothing about drugs or pharmaceuticals.

You mean well.... So please don't take the above as an assault.
It's just if you can't even realize everyone reacts differently to the different substances they put in their body, you may want to bone up on the subject you like talking about most on the forum.
I am for personal liberty.... That's all.

[precious007]

I know for a fact there are people that have used snus then killed themselves or others.... Does that mean that snus is responsible?

How about we blame people for their actions and not their habits. People get excuses everyday..... This is just another.

Don't give up on the discussion too fast...... I get your point... you like LSD but ......

First of all SNUS is does not induce psychosis nor does it have any effects on someone's mental state (alcohol is more dangerous)

LMAO What does body chemistry have to do with it? Really?

Never mind then.... No use in having a discussion with someone who clearly knows nothing about drugs or pharmaceuticals.

You mean well.... So please don't take the above as an assault.
It's just if you can't even realize everyone reacts differently to the different substances they put in their body, you may want to bone up on the subject you like talking about most on the forum.
I am for personal liberty.... That's all.

Ok, personal liberty (meaning death) Just as a side note I've been on coicaine for quite some time, had cannabis for ages in my teen ages, tried LSD and ecstasy twice, smoked legal buds of all sorts, been a caffeine addict, been addicted to alcohol, been on SSRI's and Benzo's of all types (used up to 5 mg a day, a whole bar xanax while drinking 10 beers and I was barely able to see clearly) and I am mentally strong now and completely clean of any of that crap, need I say more? :^)

I would discuss for ages about addictions (actually running couple of sites on addictions and I'm a lot into this subject) but what people don't realize that a substance that is addictive shouldn't be used by any means.......... especially chemical combinations that are created in laboratories ...... the psychical dependance is the most destructive (apart from the substance being able to literally destroy the whole body functions ... such as cocaine and heroine) ....

For example alcohol,caffeine and benzo's have affected (nothing serious) but affected my liver, bile and stomach..... and seemingly I've gotten myself reumatism because of the benzo's as well.

Heroine which is the deadliest street drug can cause: Heroin effects damage the nervous system and can also cause short and long term harm to the respiratory, heart and cardiovascular systems. Because of the toxins in the drug, as well as the way that it is taken into the body, heroin is a drug that many people overdose on. While lucky people come out of the overdose alive and unharmed, others either die or have severe and permanent damage as a result.

LSD: Two long-term effects persistent psychosis and hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD), more commonly referred to as "flashbacks," have been associated with use of LSD. The causes of these effects, which in some users occur after a single experience with the drug, are not known.

The effects of LSD can be described as drug-induced psychosis-distortion or disorganization of a person's capacity to recognize reality, think rationally, or communicate with others. Some LSD users experience devastating psychological effects that persist after the trip has ended, producing a long-lasting psychotic-like state. LSD-induced persistent psychosis may include dramatic mood swings from mania to profound depression, vivid visual disturbances, and hallucinations. These effects may last for years and can affect people who have no history or other symptoms of psychological disorder. (exactly what happened with Syd Barett)

Anyways good luck

trying to help

[sgreger1]

it's not about "reaction"

it's about LDS's consequences on the long run on the body and mind.....

I know a lot of people are playing "TOUGH" but I am familiar with cases of suicide from LCD, cocaine, heroine..... and even cannabis.

Shall I remind of Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett that has ruined his entire life and went psychotic after 2 or 3 years of cannabis and LSD use...... yet 2 - 3 years of drug use has ruined another 60 years of his life (not worth it at all) ........



well his therapist was just as mad as he was looool ......



How powerful can you fly and the rest of us can't ?

Hilarious....... What does body chemistry have to do with taking drugs? NOTHING. Drugs are highly addictive chemicals ..... no need say more lol

I am quite amused when some people try to sustain and literally "PROMOTE" drugs as non-dangerous.... and even like talking about their experiences.... and suddenly end up in rehabs .... well it's their choice ... but not a good one at all...

First of all apart from the health issues, drugs pretty much all of them at some point ... basically will make a ghost out of you and you'll be hardly able to socilaze ... get a decent job.... make friends and so on.........

Lol that is complete nonsense. You are acting like the tobacco Nazis when they say that people totally die from Snus etc. you are being way too over-zealous about this, I agree no one should be taking huge quantities of LSD or doing heroin or coke or anything, but I still can not understand why you insist on putting marijuana in the same pile. I mean what about coffee, coffee is psychoactive so maybe no one should drink coffee since they will surely end up with psychosis? What about green tea?



You must have lived a very sheltered life or something to have these thoughts. You believe that ANYONE who smokes cannabis or drinks beer or something is 100% going to en up as a ghost with no social life? Laughable, I know many successful people who smoke or drink regularly.

I wouldn't be taking LSD regularly or anything but saying that smoking weed will ruin your whole life and turn you psychotic is silly man.

[Snus Boost]

LSD can induce psychosis, I wouldn't have it even if the doctors would prescribe me LSD.

I have had tons of experience with LSD, Ecstacy, Mushrooms, PCP and a few others and from what I've seen only people that already have a deep seeded issue in their mind have a negative reaction to any of the above. People can speculate all they want based on things they read and heard about in urban legends and what they have seen on T.V. but none of that is going to make me not believe what I have seen with my own eyes and experienced.