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  • truthwolf1
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    Axe, I fully agree that Ganja is far less harmful and what I was getting at is that the (functioning alcoholic or a person who likes to drink) is similar in behaivor to chronic pot users who drive, go to work and everywhere else baked without any thought. Weed is still a impairing substance even with all of it's medical, industrial and safer drug benefits.

    I have friends who are addicted by choice then because they do everything high for many years now.

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  • Frosted
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    yeah, an alcoholic is a major issue...stopping half kills them. Stopping cannabis isn't an issue. It's the amount and frequency while the person's on it that I feel is an issue.

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  • BadAxe
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    Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
    I know a lot of people who are addicted to being stoned all day and night. In my eyes it is the same thing as being a functional alcoholic.
    You can look at it that way in your eyes, but its wrong. There are very little, if any at all, physically addicting properties to marijuna. There is mental addiction, but that is way easier to to overcome. I am a regular habitual pot smoker. But when I can not smoke it, it is not an issue at all.Gave it up for 3 months to get clean to pass a test. No withdrawal issues, no change in personality, no jonesing for my weed. My habitual use is purely by choice. A functioning alcholic can NOT give it up, and will suffer many bad symptoms when doing so. An alcoholic is also destroying his insides, where marijunna users are only repairing brain and blood cells. (that was said in humor, but there are MANY positives from intaking marijuanna). Complete total difference in the 2. ANd no one is addicted to being stoned all day and night, they are choosing that.

    ANd lots of people like to point to all of the young people in rehab for weed as prrof of its addicting nature. But thats completely false as well. Kid getscaught with weed. He gets a choice, go to Juny, or go to rehab. Easy choice. THen all the parents and politicians get to point ot all the kids in rehab and say its addicitng. Watch any habitual smoker give it up, then watch an alcoholic try to give it up, and tell me theyre are even a LITTLE bit similar, you won't be able to.

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  • Frosted
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    I come from a family with a history of alcohol abuse and it's grim. Something I strongly despise. I've seen stoners....well....do nothing which is equally depressing. I've also seen stoners with mental health problems...admittedly probably latently already there but enhanced and probably triggered by strong cannabis. Cannabis doesn't have the violence with it that alcohol abuse brings but I think there would be quieter and more private downsides to continuous cannabis usage but downsides there most definitely are. I've nothing against a casual smoke at the weekend just like a light drinker but chronic usage is dependency and abuse.

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  • Burnsey
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    Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
    I know a lot of people who are addicted to being stoned all day and night. In my eyes it is the same thing as being a functional alcoholic.
    Right, addiction is addiction, and a drug is a drug, but imho alcohol is far more dangerous and the results of alcohol abuse are more harmful.

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  • Frosted
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    Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
    I know a lot of people who are addicted to being stoned all day and night. In my eyes it is the same thing as being a functional alcoholic.
    +1...

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  • truthwolf1
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    I know a lot of people who are addicted to being stoned all day and night. In my eyes it is the same thing as being a functional alcoholic.

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  • Crow
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    I enjoy writing computer code whilst high on the mariana. Doesn't slow me down any, in fact, for me it keeps the creativity juices flowing.

    Your mileage may vary.

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  • Frankie Reloaded
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    Originally posted by Thunder_Snus View Post
    ...because it would kill all of my brain cells.
    Once I tried to do an interpreting job after a weekend spent in a pleasant company of friends and pot. Never in my whole life I had to work harder to remember, translate and retell the speaker´s words. I was literally drenched in sweat from the effort.

    So I have to sort of confirm what you are trying to ridicule. If you want to test it yourself, just have a joint or two and then, on the next day, try to do a really intensive mental labor.

    And that was a natural stuff grown somewhere around the end of the century. Not the overbred potent stuff I encounter nowadays.

    What I am trying to say it do not pretend your drug of choice is harmless. Yes, it´s not heroin, but no, it´s not without undesirable effects.

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  • Premium Parrots
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    Originally posted by Crow View Post
    Yeah, it's a waste of good herb.
    but only if it WAS good herb. With the stuff we get nowadays 15 or 20 joints would make you unable to function much at all. If I had nothing to do and just laid around all day then 15 joints of crappy weed probably wouldn't do much for me. 15 or 20 joints today would so much a waste of good weed, its a waste of personal functionality and lungs.


    With that said.....years ago I wouldn't even go to work without smoking one on the way there. Not because I needed it but because it made me do my job much better and I strived to make everything perfect. It actually worked out quite well in my case......but back then most herb wasn't as powerfull as it is now. If I was still working I couldn't smoke the current strains while working. Hell, even now I only take a few [3 or 4] puffs at nite only.

    Now addiction and withdrawals.......I don't believe either has anything to do with herb. I used to go to Cuba for weeks at a time and I never even thought about not smoking it. Never bothered me at all when I was there. Tho I do have to say I would make dam sure my wife had one ready to go when she picked me up at the airport.
    Last edited by Premium Parrots; 15-11-13, 03:26 AM.

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  • Joe234
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    Originally posted by trebli View Post
    Gaga said, "she was smoking 15 to 20 marijuana cigarettes a day". Question: Would that be considered a lot?
    With her money she probably left them burning in an ash tray and took an occasional toke while it burned away. :saturn:

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  • Crow
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    Yeah, it's a waste of good herb.

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  • trebli
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    Gaga said, "she was smoking 15 to 20 marijuana cigarettes a day". Question: Would that be considered a lot?

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  • Joe234
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    Another thing I find interesting.

    Lady Gaga is a recovering marijuana addict by her own admission.
    What about her whiskey drinking? Was it all social drinking? :-)
    And if not does she not also consider herself a recovering alcoholic?
    Wait until she meets AA. They will mess her head up and she'll find
    the weed wasn't the problem the booze was. :-) They don't look kindly
    on using alcohol socially if one is an addict to anything, including pot.
    A drug is a drug, is a drug, is the AA, NA mantra, of which I do not agree.

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  • Crow
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    Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
    Now will she fade with a series of dud albums or has she already? I don't keep up on her lastest. :-)
    Once people begin to realise that she's merely a poorly cloned American Björk... Nada mas, nada less.

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