Mars

[jamesstew]

I love Tom, he is the only guy I know who has all the boxes checked:

Support for Nazi Ufo's: Check
Support for Scientology: Check
Forests on Mars: Check
Hollow Earth: Check
Holocaust denial: Check
Apollo mission denier: Check
UFO religion: check


I mean ive met people who fall into these various catagories, but Tom is like the royal flush of conspiracy theorists, he leaves no base uncovered. Bravo Tom!

Reptilian shape-shifters?

[Roo]

Scientology is a total sham and giving it any attention at all is a complete waste of time and downright shameful, if you want me to be completely honest. The established world religions have woven the fabric of our patchwork cultural tapestry and carved the historical and geo-political landscape of modern humans. The importance of the world's major belief systems to our past, present, and future cannot be understated. Scientology has done nothing but steal millions of dollars from suckers, destroy families, and provide fodder for free thinkers to rightfully ridicule its teachings and those who believe them. Oh, and we got Suri Cruise out of it too. No offense to anyone.

[jamesstew]

I was referring to the outlandish cliams made against it, in terms of their so-called theology, in relation to the popular established religions. Personally, I don't think it is wacky at all, and makes logical sense.

It is indeed logical and makes a lot of sense:

[jamesstew]

[lxskllr]

Scientology is a total sham and giving it any attention at all is a complete waste of time and downright shameful, if you want me to be completely honest. The established world religions have woven the fabric of our patchwork cultural tapestry and carved the historical and geo-political landscape of modern humans. The importance of the world's major belief systems to our past, present, and future cannot be understated. Scientology has done nothing but steal millions of dollars from suckers, destroy families, and provide fodder for free thinkers to rightfully ridicule its teachings and those who believe them. Oh, and we got Suri Cruise out of it too. No offense to anyone.

You could say the same about any of the religions though. They were all new at one time, and regarded as bullshit voodoo by the established religions. In 1,000 years Scientology will be mainstream, and some new bullshit will be contending for the prominent position. My hope is that we'll have evolved from superstition by that point.

[tom502]

People want to only focus on aspects of Scientology that are sensationalistic, or totally not understood. The OT levels are reached at after one has attined the lower levels first. So, it's out of context. And whatever any one level may be about, it's not the core of the philosophy itself. Dianetics is the foundation, which was mainly focused on increased mental as well as physical abilities, through the clearing of supressed events in one's mind, through a method of regression. It was during this stage of development, that it was found that the regressions go back before the current birth, and man was addressed as a spiritual being, thus entering into Scientology(the science of knowing), which the goal of attaining greater spiritual awareness and ability. It's system is similar to Buddhism with a Golden Dawn application.

[justintempler]

I don't take anything tom says seriously, he has too many contradictory beliefs.
I'm convinced he's a POE

[jamesstew]

That's awesome that you can gain such awareness and abilities from Scientolgy and it'll only cost you your objectivity, free will, relationships and millions of dollars. BTW, it's not out of context, the OT levels, they're the ravings of a lunatic that craved control and money.

[jamesstew]

[QUOTE=justintempler;343854]I don't take anything tom says seriously, he has too many contradictory beliefs.
I'm convinced he's a POE

It all makes sense though:

"And the name of this solar system is Space Station 33. And they started to use this area without suspecting that the 4th Invader Force had been there for God knows how many 'scillion' years. They have various installations up on Mars and they have tremendous screened operations. The martian operation is a fascinating operation simply because it has gone into 100 % holding force. And it does everything it does with tremendous 'coversion'. It's sitting behind a defense screen of enormous size. And nobody...it's practically impossible to penetrate that except as a thetan. And if you penetrate as a thetan you go through the martian screen and they 'gotcha'."

L. Ron Hubbard lecture

[tom502]

You should read the freezone Ronsorg site:
http://www.ronsorg.com/

[sgreger1]

You could say the same about any of the religions though. They were all new at one time, and regarded as bullshit voodoo by the established religions. In 1,000 years Scientology will be mainstream, and some new bullshit will be contending for the prominent position. My hope is that we'll have evolved from superstition by that point.

This is absolutely true. When christianity started coming around the pagans werent having it. It took a long time and a lot of strong arming to make it catch on, and took several hundred years actually to come to full force. The institutions required to grab power like that do not exist today, so I doubt we will ever see scientology have that kind of grasp on people.


But Roo is also right. People like to focus on all the bad things of religion, but religion is the basis for the rich cultures we find all over the world. Religion played an integral role in early civilization and is likely an evolutionary advantage. Belief that they were doing God's work is what drove people to build massive monument, build deep cultural groundworks, and build empires. Without religion the world would be a very different place.

The same can be said about money. It is the basis for civilization, but also the cause of most wars and is the fuel that feeds greed. Plus money has caused more power struggles than religion. I don't think anyone would like to see money go away, and it's the same with religion.

I generally don't mind religion as long as they keep it to themselves. I think religion is one of the only peepholes into the past, as most of what was written down thousands of years ago was written about religion, and some of the oldest documents are religious ones. If nothing else, it inspired man to leave a written record for us to find thousands of years later. Same with money, as some of the earliest writings from Egypt etc were based on keeping accounting and inventory records.

[Bigblue1]

I love Tom, he is the only guy I know who has all the boxes checked:

Support for Nazi Ufo's: Check
Support for Scientology: Check
Forests on Mars: Check
Hollow Earth: Check
Holocaust denial: Check
Apollo mission denier: Check
UFO religion: check


I mean ive met people who fall into these various catagories, but Tom is like the royal flush of conspiracy theorists, he leaves no base uncovered. Bravo Tom!

plus mother f#cking 1!

[jamesstew]

You should read the freezone Ronsorg site:
http://www.ronsorg.com/

That's a great idea as it's based on the beliefs of Hubbard.

Hey Tom, forget Mars, there's live on Venus:

[jamesstew]

Making logical sense with a funky beat:

[Bigblue1]

Christianity is the cult of Paul........