Gotlandssnus Anis (Grey) Loose Discontinued 20120901

[rickcharles606]

I am still trying to get over Gellivare.

It wasn't that good bro, let it go...lol

[GoVegan]

I am still trying to get over Gellivare.

[mistahARK]

I to have been doing more and more snuff. It's not my first choice but it does work as I have already cut my snus use by 1/3.

I'm still on the Ettan/Grovsnus//Skruf marry-go-round but I'm not a happy camper. It just doesn't compete with the gul/gellivare of the past. At this point I have little hope of anything good happening in the snus world for grown ups. It's either candy or massive amounts of nicotine. Even the few grown up flavored snus I liked are gone with the demise of Coffee Supreme and Brandy Alexander.

What's next on the agenda. Perhaps strawberry banana milk shake extra stark.......

I don't get it when Jako's ice fruit and melon is on the market but gul los is not. I'm trying to grasp the significants of that and it's not a pretty picture.

Imagine a world where Guinness were run by Jimmy in the 1960s when only old men from Ireland drank their beer and sales were declining...

They would have brought out a few clones of Budweiser that might sell well in the USA in pretty bottles and then started to phase out their stouts one by one until they only sold fizzy weak light beer.

Instead though, they believed in the product and the tradition. Got some great creative advertising and long term business plan. And now they're one of the biggest players in the market ... And we still get to taste great Irish stout - win-win I'd say.

It's just a thought about what could be in the snus world if Gotlandssnus believed in the spiel they gave us when Jakobssons first came out - i.e. the belief in the traditional values of mr. Jakobsson and the old local variety of Swedish grown tobacco. Instead we have got this and I am very disappointed.

Very true, and well said gents. I hope that Gotland and any other manufacturer thinking about taking their roots out of their line will read this topic and reconsider. It's sad when a truly great product loses to cheap tastes, simply because there's more money there.

[rickcharles606]

It's always disappointing to see a company discontinue a snus, especially ones that have been produced for such a long time. However, I don't fault Gotlandssnus for making business decisions that help keep their bottom line nice and trim. We have to remember that they aren't the behemoth Swedish Match and can't carry brands that aren't making money. Face it guys, lossnus use is declining, no matter how much I love it and no matter how much you love it...less people are using los.

Remember, this is the company that produced these fine snus brands. I think that the longer they stay in business, the better off we are, because they can always re-release these brands...or just rebrand them. I like the Jakobsson's lineup and think that they have created a good snus, one that embraces Swedish heritage and one that can be competitive in the US market. Once these brands are really selling well in the US, maybe then we'll see some brand extentions with some flavors that you guys will recognize ;-)

[GoVegan]

I have an idea! You can sell Gotlands Yellow but with a flavor packet in the can. If you want plain snus you open the can and throw the flavor packet away. If you want flavor then you simply open the packet and drizzle sugar infused artificial flavoring all over your snus.

[Grim]

The last couple of posts are very well thought out and I agree 100%.

What made me a fan of Gotlands is the fact they were different. The Gul was the best Los I ever tried hence my signature. However seeing as Gotlands doesn't even carry a snus with their namesake is quite odd. When I think of Gul I think of the great outdoors, the earthy seemingly all natural unique flavor that was yellow and how moist and fresh every can was.

It was not a wanna be SM clone it was its own thing.

I was scared to post this because of potential flaming but I kinda lost respect for Gotlands after these discontinuations to pursue the candy market.

I find it hard to believe sales were that bad because look at these "newer" companies which have no problem pushing a Los product.

Out of their whole lineup Gotlands Anise and Gul especially were the LAST flavors I'd expect to see go.

Oh well if they brought it back I'd be all over a couple roles of it but alas I guess I am no longer a supporter of their products as they carry nothing of use to me.

It was a good run.

[lxskllr]

Imagine a world where Guinness were run by Jimmy in the 1960s when only old men from Ireland drank their beer and sales were declining...

They would have brought out a few clones of Budweiser that might sell well in the USA in pretty bottles and then started to phase out their stouts one by one until they only sold fizzy weak light beer.

Instead though, they believed in the product and the tradition. Got some great creative advertising and long term business plan. And now they're one of the biggest players in the market ... And we still get to taste great Irish stout - win-win I'd say.

It's just a thought about what could be in the snus world if Gotlandssnus believed in the spiel they gave us when Jakobssons first came out - i.e. the belief in the traditional values of mr. Jakobsson and the old local variety of Swedish grown tobacco. Instead we have got this and I am very disappointed.

I hear ya. My problem is I really like the Jakobssons products, just not full time. I think they do a great job of skating the line of real snus, and American candy, but outside the occasional portion, I'm not really interested in sweet snus; or portions as far as that goes. I still remember my very first Gotlands portions(I had them before the lös). The flavor was amazing and complex. It was the deluxe sophisticated version of snus, and I was immediately hooked. I then got into lössnus, and it was a treat every time I used it. Now I've got nothing. I can buy the portions, but I literally use less than one roll of portions per year. If I use 2 per day it's a lot.

Maybe I romanticize things more than I should, but if I made a product, I'd expect it to conform exactly to my vision. If people aren't willing to see the superiority, then fsck 'em. They can get inferior products elsewhere. No compromises, especially for something as trivial as money.

[chadizzy1]

Imagine a world where Guinness were run by Jimmy in the 1960s when only old men from Ireland drank their beer and sales were declining...

They would have brought out a few clones of Budweiser that might sell well in the USA in pretty bottles and then started to phase out their stouts one by one until they only sold fizzy weak light beer.

Instead though, they believed in the product and the tradition. Got some great creative advertising and long term business plan. And now they're one of the biggest players in the market ... And we still get to taste great Irish stout - win-win I'd say.

It's just a thought about what could be in the snus world if Gotlandssnus believed in the spiel they gave us when Jakobssons first came out - i.e. the belief in the traditional values of mr. Jakobsson and the old local variety of Swedish grown tobacco. Instead we have got this and I am very disappointed.

^ one of the best posts I think I've ever seen on SnusOn, and very true.

[squeezyjohn]

Imagine a world where Guinness were run by Jimmy in the 1960s when only old men from Ireland drank their beer and sales were declining...

They would have brought out a few clones of Budweiser that might sell well in the USA in pretty bottles and then started to phase out their stouts one by one until they only sold fizzy weak light beer.

Instead though, they believed in the product and the tradition. Got some great creative advertising and long term business plan. And now they're one of the biggest players in the market ... And we still get to taste great Irish stout - win-win I'd say.

It's just a thought about what could be in the snus world if Gotlandssnus believed in the spiel they gave us when Jakobssons first came out - i.e. the belief in the traditional values of mr. Jakobsson and the old local variety of Swedish grown tobacco. Instead we have got this and I am very disappointed.

[GoVegan]

Well said squeezy. The situation is the same in the USA. The anti tobacco people just love it when some fruity or candy flavored tobacco product comes out. That way they get to tell everyone that these products are aimed at 12 year old children. If people really want some heavily flavored artificial crap, perhaps they need to be buying candy instead. The candy flavored snus approach will only backfire in the long run. You cant buy flavored cigs except for menthol. Snus will be next.

Its sad because Gotlands used to make a great product. Other than Jaks classic, they really don't have much left anymore.

[squeezyjohn]

What worries me is that Swedish Snus is currently banned in the EU and I can see a potential massive market in a future where the snus ban is lifted (or the EU implodes and falls to pieces). There was talk here about the dialogue about the ban being re-discussed by the EU parliament with a view to reviewing it.

The more snus that is on the market that could be seen as attractive to children/minors - the less likely the EU are to look on it kindly. Traditional snus is salty and traditionally flavoured with adult flavours like bergamot, pepper, juniper, anis or just plain strong tobacco - which just have no appeal to children - which makes the case for repealing the ban much more likely to succeed.

And then comes Jakobssons, first with ice-fruit ... then sweetened mint and wintergreen ... then sweetened melon ... then strawberry sommarsnus which is so sweet that I can't have it in my mouth ... sounds like the kind of flavours that Haribo might implement rather than a snus company. If the EU want any excuse to keep the ban it is right there for them in the Jakobssons portfolio ... it doesn't taste like tobacco - it tastes like candy ... it appeals to children.

In my opinion, Swedish Match have it right - carry on with a portfolio of traditionally flavoured snus and enforce the snus ban with an eye to the long game of the possible repeal of the ban by keeping on the right side of the EU parliament. The rewards of an open market in Finland and Denmark plus the other snus friendly EU member states like the Baltic states, Germany and Poland and the rest of Europe ripe for conversion with smoking bans almost universal now ... that's something worth holding out for. Candy flavoured snus will never help that cause at all.

Squeezy

[chainsnuser]

Jimmy, I hope you will produce at least the Julesnus in a lös-version this year again. I don't think that the Julesnus really works as a portion (I once got it as a freebie and while it wasn't bad at all it was much less tasty than the lös-version).

The decline of the lös-variants really is beyond me. I probably would still be a smoker, if there had only been portions around, 5 years ago. Lössnus really is a very pleasant experience and while I also mostly use portions today just for the convenience, I really wouldn't want to miss the special treat of 1 or 2 or 3 prillas of lös per day. The taste, the mouth-feel and the nicotine-delivery is a total different world, compared to portions. So many greats lös-brands have gone over the years, it makes me sad.

The Gul and the Grå are/were both great snuses but probably not for everyone. How about something in the direction of Ettan or General instead? Skruf, Fiedler & Lundgren, GN, V2, JTI ... are still producing such lössnuses. For me, there is no doubt that a snuscompany should produce at least one lös-variant, if only to keep the reputation as a full-scale snus-producer.

Cheers!

[sharesnusinfo!]

Jimmy -

Would it not be easier to sell your los in bulk? Less can usage, less labels, and easier to package.

Like Snus2 does with their tubs. You don't even have to label it, just write on top of it, "Jimmy's Special Blend" or some shit.

http://snus2.se/index.php/finkornigt-snus-lossnus.html
^like this, simple.

Im not the only one that decide the destiny for the products, my wich is that there should be more of special products! but im not the only one that deside it .. We have alot of great ideas for the future but loose is not in the favor as it looks today.

[GoVegan]

I am still waiting for the day when snus comes with your happy meal.

[Premium Parrots]

Thats an excellant idea Chad. Good thinkin

Jimmy -

Would it not be easier to sell your los in bulk? Less can usage, less labels, and easier to package.

Like Snus2 does with their tubs. You don't even have to label it, just write on top of it, "Jimmy's Special Blend" or some shit.

http://snus2.se/index.php/finkornigt-snus-lossnus.html
^like this, simple.