Northerner: Bonus Points products discrepancy?

[rickcharles606]

I'm not sure if that counts as snus swag. It's not advertising any tobacco company, or brand.

That's right. It's not promoting a "brand" of snus....merely a store. Things like this should be okay after PACT goes into effect.

[Bigblue1]

That's right. It's not promoting a "brand" of snus....merely a store. Things like this should be okay after PACT goes into effect.

Yeah but the question is... Where's lazers swag and sgregers snus.... please answer them, I'm tired of hearing about the one, and the other just aint right....

[rickcharles606]

Yeah but the question is... Where's lazers swag and sgregers snus.... please answer them, I'm tired of hearing about the one, and the other just aint right....

I have...lol

[sgreger1]

Rick, you the man! Northerner did good in hiring you. .

[rickcharles606]

This particular T-Shirt I had selected as my bonus points item from an order back on 5/23/2010 has shown as being in stock in both Sweden and the USA all along yet my invoice/shipment of snus product has all made it to me EXCEPT this T-shirt. The invoice received with my initial order in the box had a hand written (circle) around said item and a stamp up top saying something to the effect of:

"Sorry,,, Item out of stock, Computer Error..."

I know this isn't the end of the world or anything, hell it's a free item anyhow right?, but I'm kinda boned about not ever receiving it YET still seeing the status remain as if it were available in stock...

I've sent 2 inquires about this via Northerner and have got back 1 reply a week + ago acknowledging but not really telling me anything. This is just becoming a bit of a pet peave at this point.

Anyone else have any issue(s) receiving said "Bonus Points" products? I know most of the bitch threads are about not receiving snus orders in 7 days, ect...

Sorry for the mild rant, it's just this is the kinda shit that drives me nUts.

/Peace.... LaZeR

Laz...check your PM's

[danielan]

Read it and weep...with me.

That's right. It's not promoting a "brand" of snus....merely a store. Things like this should be okay after PACT goes into effect.

It's not PACT - it's the FDA - 22 June changes.

A Summary:

http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/P.../ucm204589.htm

"Non-Tobacco Gifts or Items (21 CFR 1140.34 Sale and distribution of non-tobacco items and services, gifts, and sponsorship of events)

1. ...
2. No items (other than cigarettes or smokeless tobacco) may be offered in exchange for credits, coupons, or proofs-of-purchase of cigarettes or smokeless tobacco products."

FDA Guidance and QA

http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/G.../ucm214425.htm

"§1140.34(b)--Gifts

§ 1140.34(b) prohibits manufacturers, distributors and retailers from offering, or causing to be offered, any gift or item (other than cigarettes or smokeless tobacco) in consideration of purchasing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco or in consideration of furnishing evidence of a purchase of cigarettes or smokeless tobacco, such as proofs-of purchase, coupons, credits, or other evidence of such a purchase. The restriction also applies regardless of whether the consumer can redeem his or her proofs-of-purchase for all or part of the gift’s or item’s value.

Some commonly asked questions and answers relating to this section include the following:

Can coupons be credited toward a gift or item?

No, the regulations prohibit the offering of a gift or item (other than cigarettes or smokeless tobacco) to any person purchasing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco in consideration of furnishing evidence of such a purchase.

Can a manufacturer, distributor or retailer have a catalog that offers merchandise in exchange for points or certificates that you earn by purchasing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco?

No, a manufacturer, distributor, or retailer cannot have a catalog that offers merchandise in exchange for points or certificates that you earn by purchasing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco.

Can a manufacturer, distributor, or retailer, offer to give an item away for free in exchange for a certain number of proofs-of-purchase or offer the item at a low cost in exchange for a certain number of proof-of-purchase.

No, a manufacturer, distributor, or retailer, cannot offer to give an item away for free or offer an item at a low cost in exchange for any number of proofs-of-purchase."

The Section from the law

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...tart=1;size=25

§ 1140.34 Sale and distribution of nontobacco items and services, gifts, and sponsorship of events.

...

(b) No manufacturer, distributor, or retailer may offer or cause to be offered any gift or item (other than cigarettes or smokeless tobacco) to any person purchasing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco in consideration of the purchase thereof, or to any person in consideration of furnishing evidence, such as credits, proofs-of-purchase, or coupons, of such a purchase.

So, the shirt itself is legal, but it cannot be given to us in consideration for our having purchased snus. You also can't give us special discounts on shirts based on purchases of snus. Nor can you have a credit program that results in us being able to get free or discounted shirts.

All we can get for credits, coupons, etc is snus. (well, tobacco products).

I don't like it, but that's what it says IMO.

[KCOLLINS18]

Exactly my point. Misinformation via their website HAS unfortunately caused me issue in the past and after (weeks) to make the damn correction, does become very disheartening to say the least. I mean if the ****in shirt is OUT OF STOCK then fix the damn thing to say so.

Don't leave us hanging!

I ended up cancelling my order, thunder frosted long portions and roda lacket wasn't in stock. They also told me that I would never get my T-shirt that I ordered and that I could change my order for something else. So I was going to order some Jakobssons Wintergreen, and thunder berry but everything seems to be out of stock.

[lxskllr]

So, the shirt itself is legal, but it cannot be given to us in consideration for our having purchased snus. You also can't give us special discounts on shirts based on purchases of snus. Nor can you have a credit program that results in us being able to get free or discounted shirts.

All we can get for credits, coupons, etc is snus. (well, tobacco products).

I don't like it, but that's what it says IMO.

Hmm... It doesn't say tobacco can't be given away with a non tobacco item purchase ;^)

[LaZeR]

Laz...check your PM's

Thanks RickCharles... Glad to know someone is on it!

Cheers!

[RedMacGregor]

dude.... SHUT UP

[LaZeR]

dude.... SHUT UP

lol. not you again. *groans*