Help for those in banned states.

[lxskllr]

"Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar.
You're gonna go far,
You're gonna fly high,
You're never gonna die,
You're gonna make it, if you try;"

[LaZeR]

"Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar.
You're gonna go far,
You're gonna fly high,
You're never gonna die,
You're gonna make it, if you try;"

[amdusias]

I like Primus' cover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTgAiQvdWOE

[amdusias]

For those in Iowa, I have the number to the Tobacco Control Division if you have any questions. 515-281-6225

[snusgetter]

New info

I called a UPS Store in RI and found out something interesting:

You don't even have to get a PO Box ($105/yr for a small box!!);
they have package pickup for $3.00 and they'll even sign for your package.
Great for the occasional parcel! You'll have to make sure your CC
company has the UPS Store authorized on your card as a shipping
address, though.

I'd call an accessible/closest UPS Store in the next state over and get
all the details; I think these are franchises (à la Mailbox Etc) so there
may be some policy variances.

I'm still searching for the applicable statute but Fredrik says:

Mass. law states that a web shop must also have a brick and mortar store of the same name within the state lines, before selling online.

I don't really doubt it but how do Amazon, QVC, etc, get away
with it -- they don't have B&Ms. Unless Taxachusetts has put
such a provision into their lame tax law. Something to look into;
could be something for the ACLU??

[FINALBOSS]

I'm still searching for the applicable statute but Fredrik says:
I don't really doubt it but how do Amazon, QVC, etc, get away
with it -- they don't have B&Ms. Unless Taxachusetts has put
such a provision into their lame tax law. Something to look into;
could be something for the ACLU??

This is ****ing bullshit.

I've STILL been googling for the last day and I still haven't found a SINGLE mention of smokeless tobacco being banned from shipping to Massachusetts.

Northerner needs to get off his ****ing ass and fix this shit. It's starting to piss me off.

[snusgetter]

I've STILL been googling for the last day and I still haven't found a SINGLE mention of smokeless tobacco being banned from shipping to Massachusetts.

Likewise...
When I think I find something on the state's website, my
mind feels like it's on a rollercoaster ride; and my eyesight
has dwindled to the point I'm getting cross-eyed. I wonder
if there's a federal handout to combat PACT fatigue?


HERE'S LOOKING AT YOU, CONGRESSSLUT!!
...

[sgreger1]

Just start wrapping snus in tobacco leaves and label them cigars. Aren't cigars still legal? Claim your an indian or something lol.

[danielan]

Pipe tobacco seems to be "legal" too...

Isn't JT making snus out of pipe tobacco?

[lxskllr]

This is ****ing bullshit.

I've STILL been googling for the last day and I still haven't found a SINGLE mention of smokeless tobacco being banned from shipping to Massachusetts.

Northerner needs to get off his ****ing ass and fix this shit. It's starting to piss me off.

Other Provisions
It shall be an unfair or deceptive act or practice for any manufacturer, distributor or retailer to engage in the distribution of cigarettes or smokeless tobacco products through the mail, including redemption of coupons, credits and proofs-of-purchase. Exempts mail-order sales, excluding mail-order redemption of coupons and distribution of free samples through the mail, that are subject to age verification. Verification of age through the mail shall consist of, at a minimum, ensuring that the person to whom the product is being sent supplies a legible photocopy of a valid government-issued identification and is over the age of 18. Violation is subject to a civil penalty of not more than $5,000 plus costs of investigation and litigation including attorney’s fees.
MASS. GEN. LAWS ch. 93A § 2 & 4 & CODE of MASS. REGS. tit. 940, § 21.04 (2000).
A separate, identical regulation to the one above applies to cigars and little cigars. Violation is subject to a civil penalty of not more than $5,000 plus costs of investigation and litigation including attorney’s fees.
MASS. GEN. LAWS ch. 93A §§ 2 & 4 & CODE of MASS. REGS. tit. 940, § 22.06 (2000).

http://www.tobacco-facts.net/usa-tob.../massachusetts

Depends on how they define "mail". Is that USPS, or all carriers? I'd assume the more restrictive interpretation because life sucks that way :^/

[sgreger1]

http://www.tobacco-facts.net/usa-tob.../massachusetts

Depends on how they define "mail". Is that USPS, or all carriers? I'd assume the more restrictive interpretation because of INCREASINGLY INTRUSIVE POLICE STATE:^/

FTFY bro.

[lxskllr]

FTFY bro.

Fair enough. I was using general terms, but you specified how life sucks in this case :^D

[FINALBOSS]

http://www.tobacco-facts.net/usa-tob.../massachusetts

Depends on how they define "mail". Is that USPS, or all carriers? I'd assume the more restrictive interpretation because life sucks that way :^/

"Exempts mail-order sales"


Northerner = mail-order sales.

[EricHill78]

Is this going to be a trend other states will follow??? I'm a bit worried. This allways happens when I find something I like. I'll repeat what I've posted before.. Why the he'll are they punishing us for finding a safer alternative to cigarettes??? The studies have been done.. This is just Rediculous

[lxskllr]

"Exempts mail-order sales"


Northerner = mail-order sales.

Ah, I overlooked that. I hate reading legal documents :^/