PACT UPDATE in the House, unfinished business...

[NorSnuser]

Actually, if you had ever read at least some of the ten threads I have posted over several years listing out all the studies I have ever found that have shown nicotine to be as effective as Ritalin in treating ADHD.

Thanks for the links, Sage. I haven't done a lot of research on nicotine and ADHD specifically so these will be useful.

[timoteo]

you cant blame the youth, no

first off i do not condone violence, or the murder of murderous swine. i surely understand why this is happening so frequently. always poking there nose in everybodys buisness looking for anywayhow to take there money and destroy there lives but just like old hank says aint that the good ol american way. i am very very american. i would like to say i love this country and ofcourse i really do when it comes down to it,. this thread made me angry, more so this pact act made me angry. who better to talk about your anger of this law than the fellow snusing comunity. its not like anyone else we know around here appriciates svenskt snus the way everyone on snuson does. no one else cares about the pact act.. i look here for news and knoledge and i appriciate what everyone has to say.. if you dont want to read a post dont read it. if you dont like this thread about the pact act and how it makes us feel, DONT READ IT. if you dont care to lern about the wisdom and knoledge of Muhamad dont read about it. but than again whos looks like a bigger troll here me or you. my name is Timoteo. i know about mexico. the entire country of mexico has legalised medical marijuana years ago. period. this thread, if youve followed has not only been about snus, pact act and politics, as the lame pharasutical corporations have duely been noted for helping to destroy this country and the freedom and rights of men and women, it is an out rage. this pact act is like one more straw on the suck ass camels back and im sick of it and venting about it makes me feel good. if yopu dont like it. forget you ever wasited time reading it, the way youve forgotten about Jesus.

[sgreger1]

First of all, legalizing medical marijuana does not equate to "treating your citizens with more respect than the US", as it is legal in several places here. Mexico also allows small quantities of narcotics and mary j to be carried on one's person to cut down on the cost of prosecuting these minor crimes.

AMERICA IS GUILTY OF GENOCIDE AND HOLOCOST

Lol, and what holocost are you refering to? The holocost of powdered donoughts by overweight americans? Last time I checked, there were no deathcamps and gas chambers here executing millions, but perhaps I havn't been reading the news enough.

I LOVE IT WHEN I HEAR ANOTHER COPS BEEN SHOT TO DEATH. I LAUGH AND LAUGH AND I THANK THE ALMIGHTY CONQUERING LION OF JUDAH!

Then:

first off i do not condone violence, or the murder of murderous swine.

Your statements are conflicting. First you praise Allah or whoever and thank him for cops being shot to death, and then laugh about it. You then immediately say you don't condone violence.

Is this the religion of peace we so often hear of?

[Roo]

Is this the religion of peace we so often hear of?

He's talking about the former (deceased) king of Ethiopia lol. A little too much Peter Tosh timoteo? Well, at least we've covered Rastafari, Satan-Worship, cop-killing, Mexico, Illicit Trade, CHEESE, mental illness, ADHD, and a little PACT. Good talk boys.

[timoteo]

cops are not men. all i said is it makes me laugh and that reflects how f%@# up evrything here "ReAlly" is. emphisise the word really here over and over agin.

the holocost of Native Americans AND Afircans is very very very very REAL. but forgotten.

the holocost of medical mairijuana patients is also very real and awfuly sad. even if its a slower murder. its still murder. but im sure alcohol companys have a hand in all that as well.
i like to swedish snus doser and im not afraid to be a thinker. sue me.

only 14 of 50 states of 1 country has legalised the medicine. re dic ulous

[texasmade]

First of all, legalizing medical marijuana does not equate to "treating your citizens with more respect than the US", as it is legal in several places here. Mexico also allows small quantities of narcotics and mary j to be carried on one's person to cut down on the cost of prosecuting these minor crimes.

AMERICA IS GUILTY OF GENOCIDE AND HOLOCOST

Lol, and what holocost are you refering to? The holocost of powdered donoughts by overweight americans? Last time I checked, there were no deathcamps and gas chambers here executing millions, but perhaps I havn't been reading the news enough.

I LOVE IT WHEN I HEAR ANOTHER COPS BEEN SHOT TO DEATH. I LAUGH AND LAUGH AND I THANK THE ALMIGHTY CONQUERING LION OF JUDAH!

Then:

first off i do not condone violence, or the murder of murderous swine.

Your statements are conflicting. First you praise Allah or whoever and thank him for cops being shot to death, and then laugh about it. You then immediately say you don't condone violence.

Is this the religion of peace we so often hear of?

Rastafari is peaceful.

not towards cops. if you've ever been to trenchtown in kingston, jamaica you'll know why.

It's about personal freedom and being one with Jah(god)

Jah isn't some different god. Jah is one of God's MANY names and can be found in the bible. the KJV 1 time

the Hebrew Torah Many times.

[dEFinitionofEPIC]

timo:

I appreciate your passion and hatred of wickedness....

Though I'm not so sure about moving to Mexico either. And are you muslim, or rastafarian?... if it's ok to ask.

sgreg: You'd be surprised at the eugenics in this country. Though not participating in cut-an-dry "genocide" there is certainly blood on this country's hands.

If you haven't already see this documentary than I HIGHLY suggest you check it out... it is extremely informative in regards to eugenics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

If you need a reason to check it out... go google "margaret sanger quotes" She is the founder of Planned Parenthood and said many of the most racist and eugenic-based things I have ever heard. It'll take two seconds... here I'll do it for you:

http://www.blackinformant.com/wp-con.../08/quotes.pdf

[Bigblue1]

Let's remember that our Gov is fracked up. Ruby Ridge, Waco, OK City any body? But I don't know how smart it is to be talking about murdering people on any site on the internet these days. They will sweep you up timoteo and turn you into the next McVeigh and point to these types of posts as proof that you were nuts to begin with.....

[timoteo]

I am a rastafari PERIOD. But like that other guy said Rastafari's roots are in Judism and even Christianinty, but the same is true for for Muslimism. The torah is the first book, the bibble is the torah abbrieveated plus new testament, and the koran is those two plus the third chapter. if you are an animal of the earth you are naturaly a muslim by exsitance not many know this or care to know or care... but whatever. im not like the father of all religions or anything, but it is very interesting to me. freedom of religion anyone??

hasnt anyoneelse ever seen one of thos "If your not outraged, your not paying attention." bumper stickers.... soo true.

[sgreger1]

Thanks defep, and I am familiar with Sangar. I didn't meant to say there was no genocide, as I am aware more than most exactly HOW MUCH blood this country has on it's hands, and I point it out here often.

Sangar was real into eugenics, as many are for some reason. Eugenics here plays a small role when compared to other countries though. However, I do believe our leaders are constantly looking for ways to impose eugenics type programs. But not today. Abortion and perhaps a few conspiracy theories about vaccines or something may fit into eugenics, but barely, as it is all voluntary.


Timeoto:

cops are not men.

How do you figure? I hate corrupt cops the same as anyone else, and I have met a few in my day, but to blanket all police officers as being part of some conspiracy to do some evil is completely uncalled for. I have 1 family member who is a sherif and several friends in Los Angeles who are part of the LAPD. To hear you say that you would laugh if these people were shot to death by some gang member is personally insulting to me, and to all people who go to work and do a designated job everyday like cops do.

You have bad apples in every industry, look at subway sandwiches. If a "sandwich artist" spit in your tuna melt would you then praise god and laugh every time a subway employee gets killed? These are people too, and Americans. The suburbs would be a very different place without some law enforcement keeping the peace.

the holocost of Native Americans AND Afircans is very very very very REAL.

I'll give you the native americans but ther was never an african holocost in this country. Slavery, but no holocost. And in all honesty, we killed the indians in a war of conquest. If any war in which one side loses can be called a holocost, than every regime from every country in all of earth's history is guilty of perpetrating a holocost. (Except Sweden, damn peacenicks )

the holocost of medical mairijuana patients is also very real and awfuly sad. even if its a slower murder. its still murder.

This here is utter BS. First of all, there is nothing MJ treats that is not treated by equally available drugs or procedures. MJ is just a natural way of doing it, and is effective in making you less nautious while going through chemo etc but isn't some life saving drug that millions are being deprived of. Plus, many states already have medical mary j and most states will have it in the next 20 years. To say that a lack of medical marijuana is akin to a genocide and murder is completely off base, no matter how you look at it.

[Snusmun]

This is also why I don't think we should support the new trend that states that we outlaw supplements and anything not approved by the FDA for treating anything.

This is indeed the trend, see codex alimentarius. This is just part of the plan for our brave new world. You have all medicines, natural or synthetic, controlled by FDA, and produced by huge corporations. Combined with food supply, all seeds and the legal rights to use them, controlled by USDA and huge corporations like Monsanto. They control the food, they control the medicine, they control the media, they control the internet, and they have much bigger guns. They are not there yet, but they are getting closer every day to ultimate control and dominance over every aspect of our lives. All to maintain power and maximize profits, like a well-oiled corporation should.

Humans and animals have been self-medicating forever. Nature provides a bounty of chemicals, typically in form of plant compounds, that have curative properties for most ailments, be them physical or mental. What most people don't know is that almost all "medicine", aka drugs, made by pharmaceuticals are based on these natural compounds. They may add a couple of atoms here or there, like functional groups, so that they can claim synthesis, discovery, and get a patent, and make a few billion dollars. All endorsed by your government and doctor. Welcome to the hypocrisy, where the corporate product is legal and accepted, but god's own natural product is outlawed and criminalized. It is an amazingly vicious cycle with ramifications that extend like tentacles into every aspect of our daily life, from taxes, like PACT, to the health care debate and policy, to the prison industry.....it goes on and on. So why does FDA want complete control over tobacco and nicotine products? Well to protect the health and safety of children...isn't it obvious? sorry that's all a bit rambling but my brain is quite fuzzy at the moment....too many connections.

Don't be surprised to wake up one day and find tobacco products are illegal. not taxed or restricted, but flat out illegal. However, no need to worry, you will be able to get a nice little pink nicotine pill from your doctor, produced by the same corporation that brought you Prozac, a multi-billion dollar drug that has been shown to be exactly as effective as the placebo effect in treating depression.

[sgreger1]

The torah is the first book, the bibble is the torah abbrieveated plus new testament, and the koran is those two plus the third chapter. not many know this or care to know or care... but whatever. im not like the father of all religions or anything, but it is very interesting to me. freedom of religion anyone??

hasnt anyoneelse ever seen one of thos "If your not outraged, your not paying attention." bumper stickers.... soo true.

We all dislike what the government is doing on this forum (for the most part) in one way or another. Calling for cops to die and that america is in the process of perpetrating a holocost is just fake though.

The torah is the first book, the bibble is the torah abbrieveated plus new testament, and the koran is those two plus the third chapter.

I point out to my mom who studies judaism often that the Torah was not the first book written on religion/nature of the universe/god etc. Jews came in a few thousand years late to claim that prize.

if you are an animal of the earth you are naturaly a muslim by exsitance

No, your not. And even if that is what the book says, than tell me why muslims would be concerned with converting infadels if everyone is already muslim?

[Roo]

timoteo are you of legal age to buy snus? You're not making a tremendous amount of sense and you spell worse than sgreger and cj combined (no offense to all 3 of you). I did a google search of your name for shits and man, the images that come up under timoteo... bummer dude.

[sgreger1]

This is indeed the trend, see codex alimentarius...

+1

That's exactly what it is. They use stuff found in nature and make a patent for it=profit, then make natural product illegal=profit. Then controll HC system so they can get gov funding to buy you said pills=profit. Get media to promote vaccines/pills=profit. Force the use of GM seeds=profit.Tax things that are bad for you=profit. Advertise same product that is supposedly better for you=profit.

I am obviousely in the wrong business.

[sgreger1]

timoteo are you of legal age to buy snus? You're not making a tremendous amount of sense and you spell worse than sgreger and cj combined (no offense to all 3 of you). I did a google search of your name for shits and man, the images that come up under timoteo... bummer dude.

I take pride in my lack of proofreading and refusal to use spellcheck! Spellcheck is giving in to the man! Spellcheck was made by the corporations! Grammar is part of your fathers generation's social construct and I want no part of it!

/gramar terrorist
// lol j/k guys I just can't spell for shit. Deal with it.