PACT ACT IS NOT DEAD......

[ladysnus]

LMAO that really made me chuckle. Yea I'm stocked up till about 2013...........I guess I won't ever have to place another order. Assumeing the Mayans are correct.

2013 good idea, just incase the Myans were off a little...good thinking PP

[snupy]

From my understanding the on-line retailers will have to sign a contract with a currier to distribute the goods. Both UPS and Fed Ex have age verification systems already in place.

Don't both charge out the ass for shipping though, as compared to Swedish Post Office -> USPS?

Taxes will be paid at the point of sale.

Fvck that. We all know they tax tobacco because of health reasons. We all know smokeless tobacco is nowhere near as harmful as cigarettes, but they will tax it anyway.

Having said that, I certainly will be doing some stocking up but I'm not going to panic.

Me either. I am growing my own, which means the government will be completely out of it and will not be rewarded with tax dollars from me.

[ladysnus]

Taxes will be paid at the point of sale.

Fvck that. We all know they tax tobacco because of health reasons. We all know smokeless tobacco is nowhere near as harmful as cigarettes, but they will tax it anyway.

Having said that, I certainly will be doing some stocking up but I'm not going to panic.

Me either. I am growing my own, which means the government will be completely out of it and will not be rewarded with tax dollars from me.[/quote]

stubb2 "I'm not going to panic"

snupy " me either. I'm growing my own"

LMAO. My feelings exactly snupy.

[justinp]

Y'all know that by making your own snus you're almost certainly negating most of the health benefits as far as reduced carcinogens go, right?

[snupy]

Y'all know that by making your own snus you're almost certainly negating most of the health benefits as far as reduced carcinogens go, right?

My understanding is as follows:

1. The curing of tobacco for smoking INCREASES TSNA levels in tobacco.

2. The pasteurization of tobacco when making snus, LOWERS TSNA levels.

Since I won't be doing any fire or flue curing, but only air-curing/air drying (for 90 days), #1 above does not apply at all.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[snupy]

LMAO. My feelings exactly snupy.

What better way to deal with gubmint insanity than to lock them out of the process completely?

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Y'all know that by making your own snus you're almost certainly negating most of the health benefits as far as reduced carcinogens go, right?

My understanding is as follows:

1. The curing of tobacco for smoking INCREASES TSNA levels in tobacco.

2. The pasteurization of tobacco when making snus, LOWERS TSNA levels.

Since I won't be doing any fire or flue curing, but only air-curing/air drying (for 90 days), #1 above does not apply at all.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Just a thought, snupy.....tobacco is a magnet for anything in the soil, so even if TSNA's are low, pesticides, minerals and heavy metals are worth considering. It's my understanding from V2's website that this is the reason Asian grown tobacco is preferred. I haven't studied-up enough to know very much, but next year I plan on growing my own 'baccy for snus and hope the ol' horse turd pasture doesn't yield any bits of corn in the 'baccy leaves....if ya know what I mean :wink: .

[GoVegan]

It would be a bit reassuring to see a store like Northerner or clubsnus saying not to worry about Pact and that they are ready to sell snus even after the law is passed.

[fdknuckles]

It would be a bit reassuring to see a store like Northerner or clubsnus saying not to worry about Pact and that they are ready to sell snus even after the law is passed.

I agree, BUT.....

if they don't, when do you feel is the appropriate time to make that last BIG order? :?

[lxskllr]

It would be a bit reassuring to see a store like Northerner or clubsnus saying not to worry about Pact and that they are ready to sell snus even after the law is passed.

I agree, BUT.....

if they don't, when do you feel is the appropriate time to make that last BIG order? :?

I'd place as many big orders as you're able to, for as long as you're able to. Seriously, if you're gonna stick with snus, how many investments pay 30%+ dividends? Snus is your best bet for making money in this economy ;^)

[ladysnus]

Y'all know that by making your own snus you're almost certainly negating most of the health benefits as far as reduced carcinogens go, right?

My understanding is as follows:

1. The curing of tobacco for smoking INCREASES TSNA levels in tobacco.

2. The pasteurization of tobacco when making snus, LOWERS TSNA levels.

Since I won't be doing any fire or flue curing, but only air-curing/air drying (for 90 days), #1 above does not apply at all.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Just a thought, snupy.....tobacco is a magnet for anything in the soil, so even if TSNA's are low, pesticides, minerals and heavy metals are worth considering. .

This is why growing in coco is as good as it gets IMO. Coco has nothing but what you put into it. So if you are using certified organic fertilizers and "flushing" often to maintain ph and only using pestisides like neem if you must...I would think TSNA would not be a problem.

[texasmade]

Y'all know that by making your own snus you're almost certainly negating most of the health benefits as far as reduced carcinogens go, right?

My understanding is as follows:

1. The curing of tobacco for smoking INCREASES TSNA levels in tobacco.

2. The pasteurization of tobacco when making snus, LOWERS TSNA levels.

Since I won't be doing any fire or flue curing, but only air-curing/air drying (for 90 days), #1 above does not apply at all.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Just a thought, snupy.....tobacco is a magnet for anything in the soil, so even if TSNA's are low, pesticides, minerals and heavy metals are worth considering. .

This is why growing in coco is as good as it gets IMO. Coco has nothing but what you put into it. So if you are using certified organic fertilizers and "flushing" often to maintain ph and only using pestisides like neem if you must...I would think TSNA would not be a problem.

like coco powder?

[ladysnus]

Coco fiber, you can buy it at hydroponic stores. It's shredded coconut fiber

[desirexe]

Good point Roo! The people in here are the best and I have a feeling this forum will be alive and well long after Pact has passed. Even if we are just comparing notes on Camel snus! :lol:

No way!!! In regards to comparing Camel. We'll all be here comparing homemade snus and swapping recipes! I'll quit before resorting to Camel!!!

[daruckis]

i still cant believe this shit. snus could change the world, if given a proper chance.