I've got to quit the starks...

[Veganpunk]

I want to ween off of sterks completely myself. I use maybe about 3-5 a day. I just have so much in stock, it's gonna take a couple of yesars to deplete them.

[BadAxe]

Try some melatonin to get to sleep when you are all jacked up like that.

[teeotee]

I've been pretty much 90% extra sterks for the last two months since i took advantage of the Northerner Thunder deal. I've had a few real wacky dreams, other than that i've had no real problems.

Have you thought about stepping down to maybe Onyx or Grov black for a while, then go down to regular strength? Aren't they around 10 or 11mg ?

I'm probably going to go that route once my stash is gone, which it almost is.

When i still lived in England i smoked a fair bit of Drum, not a bad tobacco, although Old Holborn was my usual brand.

[Experimental Monkey]

I found my solution, guys. Northerner sent me a free can of General Silver with my last order and at the time I said great, another can I'll never use. I ended up opening it to try it late at night to bring my nic levels down and I LOVE that stuff. The subdued flavor is delicious too and is perfect for going to sleep with it in my mouth. I'm going to sleep a little earlier now every night thanks to General Silver. Nick and Johnny to wake up with and after meals, General Original all day, General ES los as a after work relax and kick back treat and Silver late at night. I think I have my rotation set. Now it's time to stock up.

[CoderGuy]

I found my solution, guys. Northerner sent me a free can of General Silver with my last order and at the time I said great, another can I'll never use. I ended up opening it to try it late at night to bring my nic levels down and I LOVE that stuff. The subdued flavor is delicious too and is perfect for going to sleep with it in my mouth. I'm going to sleep a little earlier now every night thanks to General Silver. Nick and Johnny to wake up with and after meals, General Original all day, General ES los as a after work relax and kick back treat and Silver late at night. I think I have my rotation set. Now it's time to stock up.

Cool. So what's the deal with the silver, is it less nic?

[Experimental Monkey]

It's basically General OP with 6 mg nic instead of 8. It also has a very mild taste, less moisture, and little drip. Very pleasant and although lower on nic it still satisfies. I love it. It's good at what it was meant for. People who want less in your face taste and a tad less nic kick.

[teeotee]

E.M. good to hear you found a rotation that works for you. That Gen silver sounds worth trying once. I did burn out on General since for a long time it was all i could get in Iowa. May have to give that one a try.

[AllanH]

I second Expo Monkey here with General Silver, it is really good portion snus and worth a try. I personally use nasal snuff too and find many snus's too strong now even though I never use them simultaneously. And General Silver is the most pleasant snus to use.

[Jwalker]

Silver was interesting I always used two at once and switched em out it was kind of weirdly relaxing, oh and jakobsson's isn't that strong it hit's faster though like grizzly wintergreen speed. Grizzly and kodiak are weird because you feel them in like 5 minutes and stuff like skoal you get it after 15 minutes.

[heders]

For the thread starter and you other people that said you were going to try and quit starks, did you manage?

I'm going to do it as well, as I have found the extra nicotine unnecessary for me. The biggest reason I actually have used them is because all new brands and all new flavors come in stronger variations. Heck, I could use 4 mg's if they delivered the same flavor as the regular portions...

But I have literally chain-snused sterks/extra sterks for quite a while now (up to probably over 10-12 portions/prillas a day), and I just get messed up from the high nicotine levels I build up during the day. For example, I have experienced I start worrying about the most irrational and silly things after days of chain snusing starks.

Today I've had about 4-5 regular 8 mg portions in total, and I feel fully satisfied. I have started to have them in for a longer time and wait a bit until my next portion as well. Since the nicotine in snus comes on pretty slow and stays for a long time, it's better to let the nicotine levels drop down a bit before throwing in your next one. At least for me.

For now on: 8 mg portions and lös will do the trick for me.

[Renico]

I have always used 8mg snus. And sometimes 9mg(Jakobssons ice-fruit for example). But now i feel that i need some stronger. I feel that I got a craving around every 30 min or so when i have taken one out. Before i could go around 2 hours between i snus but now it has changed. Maybe it is because i really like the snus i use at the moment (can of LD white portion). But to crave another one every 30 mins dont work for me. Its almost like chain-snusing and i dont have the money or the snus for doing that. (Im buying small stash in every order).

Maybe its time for me to go a level up. Not Extra sterks but those sterks which are around 11-14 mg. Just use 3 of them a day together with the regular 8-9 mg.

[Ansel]

I hear you Renico. Skruf Stark at around 12mg is just right for me.

[kevs]

Lately I've been using different strength snuses in cycles, for example from Mon-Wen I use 8mg stuff, then Wen-Fri medium strength and Fri-Sun extra sterks and extremes. These times vary quite often, so I can get good hit from the stronger snus and satisfaction from 8mg stuff.

[Xakz]

I've already gone from chaining sterks for months back down to 8mgs. I'm enjoying and don't need the strong anymore and can't tell the difference anymore either.

[muddyfunkstar]

I've just ordered a roll of regular strength snus in a bid to wean myself off starks. I'll keep you posted, last time I tried it was an epic fail.