I've got to quit the starks...

[Experimental Monkey]

So here I am again for the 4th night in a row up at 3am unable to sleep. I can't help but attribute this to using too much strong snus. Even when I try to make my latenight portion a regular strength it doesn't help much. I feel like I'm all strung out from a day full of snus that's really too damn strong. I think it's time to go regular portions only. Damn I'll miss the taste of Nick and Johnny...

[visiON]

You don't have to quit the starks, just position them evenly throughout the day, more sparsely than you are now. Instead of one every 2 hours, make it one every 4-6 hours.

[precious007]

Here's my view...

Strong snus is only for "the veterans" that no longer feel anything from the normal portions/los.

I remember my first snus I've started off with has been General ES, General ES Los, Skruf XS Los, Skruf ES Portions and Skruf XS Portions ... at that I thought that snus just wasn't for me .... until I've started using regular los snus and normal portions .....

To be honest with you the Extra Starks are still way too strong for me, I feel as my head is popping out of my neck .... sometimes I even get jaw and ear pain from it......

I do it every now and then but not my regular.... and yes snus does keep you awake .... for example it gives me energy .... (not even 4 cups of coffee would give me that energy as a 'solid' portion of los gives me

[visiON]

@precious007, I must say both coffee and snus tire me, and thus I feel nothing from <16mg nicotine snus. I've even almost puked because of Thunder Frosted, oh and it didn't wake me up.

[precious007]

visiON

Do you also smoke?

Because cigarettes smoking typically can make you feel tired and nasty an entire life...

I went in the club last night and I think I have second-hand smoked 10 packs of cigarettes in about 6 hours/ I had a terrible headache... dizziness and barely was able to fall asleep because I felt so sick....

I usually don't go in that club..... they don't have any type of ventilation I guess..


Al.

[visiON]

precious007,
I didn't smoke while using snus but I am smoking now(Only 1 pack till I get the adhd meds), wasn't addicted to snus when I used it(5 cans of Thunder Frosted) and am not addicted to smoking now.

[texastorm]

I cant blame my insomnia entirely on snus, as I have always been an insomniac. I have always been a bit nocturnal. But I do feel snus has an effect of calming you down while keeping you up. At least it does for me.

[precious007]

why don't you just drop the cigarettes if you're not addicted?

If you're smoking then probably that's why you get tired ....

And snus can get your feeling tired only when you start using it.... the body gets used to it and you actually feel more energic as the tolerance increases....

at least that's how it works for me

[WickedKitchen]

I hear ya with the sterks. Lately I've been having 3/day and it used to be one or two. This has only been for the last few days so I will knock it back to 2/day tomorrow. Today is not the right day as there will be football watching for most of the day. Might even have 4 today or a pris of that Makla stuff. I could very easily let myself sliding to all sterks all the time. It's like dancing with Mr. Brownstone. Starting the day w/o a sterk would be a challenge for me. Other than that I find it easy to manage w/ 8mg portions. I just don't order nearly as many of the strong ones as I do the regular ones.

Some people sleep w/ snus in. They have powers beyond me.

[visiON]

why don't you just drop the cigarettes if you're not addicted?

Because I like rolling tobacco, and the starks were what made me tired, no matter when or how much.

[CoderGuy]

I actually chain starks as the two Jakobbson's are my favorite (and pretty much all I can get anymore). I don't notice any difference. As a matter of fact if I didn't know they were strong I wouldn't know the difference.

[precious007]

Because I like rolling tobacco, and the starks were what made me tired, no matter when or how much.

Do you like DRUM? :-)

Pretty strong but it's great

[Hanske]

My first snus was a Skruf Xtra Stark portion. Got it from a friend. Damn, that was strong. I remember just sitting there in the sofa for half an hour drinking coke. Not so fun just sitting there watching your friends at a party. Luckily I got over it pretty quicky, and could have an Ice. After that I used the Skruf original portion for a while, but I started feeling sick everytime I had one. So I started using Nick and Johnny, and that's been my everyday snus since. I ocationally buy General Løs, Jacobsson's Wintergreen ++, but I always have an N&J in my pocket. And I can't feel I have trouble sleeping after it. I actually feel more tired.

[visiON]

Do you like DRUM? :-)

Pretty strong but it's great

Mac Baren is where it's at ^^

[precious007]

Mac Baren too :-)

I also enjoy Deer ..