SNUS and blood circulation?

[bijo]

I'm wondering if taking snus can have a bad effect on circulation?

I had some skin grafting surgery and the area of the surgery needs good blood circulation - That is one of the biggest reasons I quit smoking cigs.
I really enjoy snus but want to know how it effects BLOOD CIRCULATION only.. (I'm not talking about cancer, or gum disease, etc .. only asking about blood circulation in specific).

Lets say I take 6 portions a day of 6-8mg (general or Camel) snus?

Would this be much better compared to smoking cigarettes for healthy blood flow / circulation?

Btw I am 27 years old, very healthy, just worried about my surgery grafts that need excellent healing and proper blood flow.

[Jwalker]

Checked google and I think nicotine slows down blood circulation, It's probably better than smoking because I think the Carbon Monoxide from the smoke effects blood circulation more, but yeah sorry it will effect it.

[bijo]

Is there any thing else in Snus (besides the nicotine) that interferes with blood flow / circulation?
I want to be able to talk to my doctor about this so I would love to read more answers from others. Thanks so much.

[TommyGunBC]

if I were you and need some nicotine I would opt for a Ecig until you have healed up then snus on !!

[bijo]

Just out of curiosity why do you recommend an ecig vs Snus? I have been using my ecig and I actually want to start using Snus more. Why would the ecig be safer?
From what I understand the main issue with ecigs and Snus is THE NICOTINE. Since both delivers nicotine why isn't Snus just as safe as the ecig for healing and blood circulatio?

[TommyGunBC]

I think there is a lower rate of absorbtion of nicotine with ecigs and I noticed my circulation got much better using ecigs , just speculation on my part but ecigs aren't tobacco per say so I think they are a little better in this department IMO

[raptor]

It can be argued that using an e-cig is the "safest" way of combating a smoking/nicotine addiction. Tobacco itself has a lot of components other than nicotine, some of which could be beneficial, some harmful. Some people here report that e-cigs don't completely eliminate nicotine anxiety while snus does; perhaps it is from the other bioactive compounds in tobacco.

If nicotine is the primary culprit in affecting blood circulation, then neither snus nor e-cigarettes would be recommended given your post-surgery requirements.

As for nicotine absorption, snus provides a much bigger punch than e-cigs because of the way it's prepared and used (high pH, more concentrated nicotine, constant contact with mucous membrane).

[TommyGunBC]

Well for me ecigs did the trick in getting rid of my 20 year smoking habit , if it wasn't for a ecig purchase that I made thru a classifieds on a ecig forum that the seller included a can of Thunder berry I would have never come into the Snus world or probably ever used another tobacco product.

[WickedKitchen]

Well I have Raynaud's disease. It's a circulatory disorder that was pretty bad when I was smoking. My hands and feet were constantly cold and blotchy. When I squeezed them they would turn white for a few minutes. This rarely happens now that I've been snusing for years. I'd surmise that it's much better than smoking although nicotine itself is a vasoconstrictor. There's a good bit of salt in them too...this has an effect on the circulatory system too. I balance mine w/ bananas (I think).

Where are the grafts? If they're in the outer part of your extremities you might have a little effect w/ the nic, but if they're say on your thighs or torso I'd guess you'd be fine. I'm not a doctor but I'd guess that if you use the muscles under or around the grafts that would help you too.

[bijo]

According to this chart pasted below I would be getting LESS nicotine from SNUS than from vaping my 12mg liquid:

[B]            Product              ||  Nic Present  || Nic Actually Absorbed ||     Nic Absorption Rate (and Feel)     || MAOI (bio)available[/B]
1.0 Average Cigarette               ~  7 to 13 mg       ~ 0.7 to 1.3 mg       Big spike, then a quickish letdown                yes
1.0 Mini Snus                       ~  4 mg             ~ 0.4 to 0.8 mg       Gentle rise; mostly slow, easy, steady            yes
1.0 "Portion" (Regular) Snus        ~  8 to  9 mg       ~ 0.8 to 1.8 mg       Gentle rise; mostly slow, easy, steady            yes
1.0 Stark Snus                      ~ 11 to 13 mg       ~ 1.1 to 2.6 mg       Gentle rise; mostly slow, easy, steady            yes
1.0 Extra Stark Snus                ~ 15 to 17 mg       ~ 1.5 to 3.4 mg       Gentle rise; mostly slow, easy, steady            yes
0.5 ml of Vaporized 11 mg Liquid    ~  5.5 mg           ~ 1.1 to 2.2 mg       Somewhere in between cig and snus                 no
0.5 ml of Vaporized 18 mg Liquid    ~  9.0 mg           ~ 1.8 to 3.6 mg       Somewhere in between cig and snus                 no

[raptor]

Nicotine's euphoric effects are dependent on nicotine inward flux (concentration per unit time) rather than overall intake. A lot of people here report snus being more effective than e-cigs, even if they deliver a total amount equivalent to stark snus.

[lxskllr]

The difference isn't so great. ~1.75mg absorbed ecig vs ~1.30mg absorbed regular portion snus, with both being at the high end of a standard cig delivery, and greater than it's average.

AFAIK, there isn't anything in snus that would be more damaging than the ecig. The reverse OTOH... Ecigs have had very little testing. Tobacco's been tested to death for a very long time now. I'd have some concerns about inhaling the glycerines. Not because there's necessarily something wrong with that, but I don't think it's been shown to be safe, harmful, or indifferent at this point. Also, if you get your liquid from China, all bets are off. I wouldn't inhale Chinese mist more than once, and that would be to see what an ecig was about. I'm not even sure I'd do that tbh.

[xrt]

Snus is bad for you because it contains nicotine (not that I care)
Nicotine effects blood circulation

[raptor]

Snus is bad for you because it contains nicotine (not that I care)
Nicotine effects blood circulation

Caffeine is as bad as nicotine.

[bijo]

This sounds like a very logical answer. That is what I thought. I really don't see how snus is so different from ecigs..

The difference isn't so great. ~1.75mg absorbed ecig vs ~1.30mg absorbed regular portion snus, with both being at the high end of a standard cig delivery, and greater than it's average.

AFAIK, there isn't anything in snus that would be more damaging than the ecig. The reverse OTOH... Ecigs have had very little testing. Tobacco's been tested to death for a very long time now. I'd have some concerns about inhaling the glycerines. Not because there's necessarily something wrong with that, but I don't think it's been shown to be safe, harmful, or indifferent at this point. Also, if you get your liquid from China, all bets are off. I wouldn't inhale Chinese mist more than once, and that would be to see what an ecig was about. I'm not even sure I'd do that tbh.