So I told my doc about my snus...

[sheilalynn]

Had a doc appointment the other day and she asked if I was still not smoking. She knew about the e-cig I have, but I finally told her about how well snus works. First thing she says? "Ok, but keep in mind that that is only a temporary thing...you don't want to have to worry about mouth cancer". AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!

But, at least she did ask me how to spell it and wrote it down after I told her how well it takes care of the cig cravings and all and that it's made to food-quality standards, no spitting, etc. Hopefully she's doing a little research of her own. Knew I should've brought in one of the papers that getsnus puts in your orders.

[Veganpunk]

Yea, it's hard trying to get people to understand the difference, they usually don't want to hear it.

[desirexe]

The first thing I see when I go into my medical clinic is a table full of "Stop Dipping" literature and models of rotten mouths and posters depicting men with missing bottom jaws. (I go to a military clinic) I can't imagine what my doc would say if I mentioned that I used snus! I'm sure after a lecture I would be asked to join their 'stop dipping' program as well as leaving with a bag full of literature! PLUS - my permanent records would probably label me as a "smokeless tobacco" user, which around these here parts is AKA a "dipper." F that noise...

[spirit72]

Re: So I told my doc about my snus...

Had a doc appointment the other day and she asked if I was still not smoking. She knew about the e-cig I have, but I finally told her about how well snus works. First thing she says? "Ok, but keep in mind that that is only a temporary thing...you don't want to have to worry about mouth cancer". AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!

It was a good idea to make Doc aware of it. And we probably all should, just to get them to look at the studies that are out there.

Probably the best weapon we'll ever have against the Tobacco Fascists is educated medical personnel.

[sheilalynn]

Knew I had to tell her sooner or later, just been chicken to do it because I knew what was coming :wink:

[tom502]

This is an oppertunity to educate them. Tell them how snus is regulated as food, and how numerous studies have found it to not be cancerous, and how Sweden has the lowest rates, and how it has freed many people from smoking. Drs rarely know much really, they just look at symptoms and dole out pills.

[Premium Parrots]

..........and if you tell your doctor and you pay for private insurance then you can expect your premiums to go up a full 40%.

[sgreger1]

..........and if you tell your doctor and you pay for private insurance then you can expect your premiums to go up a full 40%.

Yah don't tell your Dr shit and they won't be able to rat you out to your insurance company.

[Mordred]

This is an oppertunity to educate them. Tell them how snus is regulated as food, and how numerous studies have found it to not be cancerous, and how Sweden has the lowest rates, and how it has freed many people from smoking. Drs rarely know much really, they just look at symptoms and dole out pills.

True that, we've somehow come to believe that medical doctors are somehow geniuses or something. They're not. In many cases they're not even smarter than you or me. They just happened to study medicine, like other people study law, economics and whatnot.

They're prone to fall victim to the same kind of misinformation as everybody else. Hell, even many of those working in the specific field of cancer research will happily repeat the dubious health claims about snus.

Furthermore, and this is what really worries me, many medical doctors don't adhere to the idea of harm reduction and instead preach abstinence. For some reason, it's been ingrained in them that no harm is ever acceptable, which is paradoxical, since they prescribe pills on a daily basis that have potentially very drastic side effects.

Why somebody can say "Ok, this pill might harm my patient, but if he doesn't get treatment, he'll most likely be worse off" but then, in the same breath, say "No form of tobacco is acceptable" is beyond me.

[Premium Parrots]

good post Mordred. And welcome to SnusOn.

[LaZeR]

Why somebody can say "Ok, this pill might harm my patient, but if he doesn't get treatment, he'll most likely be worse off" but then, in the same breath, say "No form of tobacco is acceptable" is beyond me.

+1

[sgreger1]

This is an oppertunity to educate them. Tell them how snus is regulated as food, and how numerous studies have found it to not be cancerous, and how Sweden has the lowest rates, and how it has freed many people from smoking. Drs rarely know much really, they just look at symptoms and dole out pills.

True that, we've somehow come to believe that medical doctors are somehow geniuses or something. They're not. In many cases they're not even smarter than you or me. They just happened to study medicine, like other people study law, economics and whatnot.

They're prone to fall victim to the same kind of misinformation as everybody else. Hell, even many of those working in the specific field of cancer research will happily repeat the dubious health claims about snus.

Furthermore, and this is what really worries me, many medical doctors don't adhere to the idea of harm reduction and instead preach abstinence. For some reason, it's been ingrained in them that no harm is ever acceptable, which is paradoxical, since they prescribe pills on a daily basis that have potentially very drastic side effects.

Why somebody can say "Ok, this pill might harm my patient, but if he doesn't get treatment, he'll most likely be worse off" but then, in the same breath, say "No form of tobacco is acceptable" is beyond me.

I'll give you a hint: They don't sell tobacco