Snus dangers - US News and World Report

[deebocools]

other lifestyle choices besides the drug in question are almost never researched. For example, most people accept the maxim that moderate drinking is better for you than not-drinking. What the don't say is that moderate drinkers are more likely to excercise, eat better and have wider circles of friends as opposed to both non-drinkers and heavy-drinkers.

I know nicotine is a different drug, but similarly they don't take into account lifestyle. Did it cause oral cancer in a person of good oral health? or was it some backwoods swedish mountain man who never brushed his teeth cause it would cut back on his snusing time?

another "curiosity" is that swedish men who snus on average have lower blood pressure than those who don't. Of course nicotine is a stimulant, so like caffeine it can raise blood pressure, but perhaps just having a reliable source of nicotine that wasn't forbidden everywhere calmed them down as opposed to a smoker who is constantly ostracized.

most of these articles act as if snusers, or smokers, or drinkers, do it for a dayjob. in actuality, other lifestyle choices every day effect health.

[Gowrie]

Bump.

The Wall Street Journal has a nice story:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1233...cle-outset-box

[Mazur]

What are you talking about? Everyone knows that snus is extremly dangerous!
Once upon a time a poor swedish woman gone for ice fishing. When she was walking across iced lake she set foot on a empty snus box. She has sliped then. She falled down, made an air hole in the lake and she sunk in cold water.

Isn't that a scientific proof?

[Old Frothingslosh]

Ha ha. Good one, Mazur.

[Sal1000us]

I will accept the scientists’ argument about snus being as bad as smoking cigarettes if they can prove that snus contains 599 additives plus 4000 chemical compounds.
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Excerpt from: http://quitsmoking.about.com/

The list of 599 additives approved by the US Government for use in the manufacture of cigarettes is something every smoker should see. Submitted by the five major American cigarette companies to the Dept. of Health and Human Services in April of 1994, this list of ingredients had long been kept a secret.

Tobacco companies reporting this information were:
American Tobacco Company
Brown and Williamson
Liggett Group, Inc.
Philip Morris Inc.
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company

When the ingredients in cigarettes are burned, they produce a whole host of chemical compounds, many of which are poisonous and/or carcinogenic. Hydrogen cyanide, a colorless, poisonous gas, is one of the toxic byproducts present in cigarette smoke.

Under the name of Zyklon B, hydrogen cyanide was used as a genocidal agent during World War II.

While these ingredients are approved as additives for foods, they were not tested by burning them, and it is the burning of many of these substances which changes their properties, often for the worse. Over 4000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette, many of which are toxic and/or carcinogenic. Carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, hydrogen cyanide and ammonia are all present in cigarette smoke. Forty-three known carcinogens are in mainstream smoke, sidestream smoke, or both.

List of 599 additives:
http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nico...ngredients.htm

[aj01]

reduced harm & Big Pharma

All anyone has to do, if they are concerned about the health effects of snus, is look at Sweden and Norway as laboratories these past 200 years.

These folks live half their lives in cold darkness, drink like fish, and still live to be 100. A lot of them use snus. Many have healthy outdoor lifestyles, and snus has no effect whatsoever on their health except as a welcome and relaxing break.

Our culture will never allow a tobacco company to make a health claim, though Swedish Match tries hard. In America the warning "This Product is Not a Safe Alternative to Cigarettes" on snus is an absurd lie.

Nicorette and patches/pills should also be required to post that warning, but since the nic in these products is synthesized, they do not have to.

Ironic, that natural nicotine delivery from a plant is deemed more dangerous than chemical delivery.

And if you pay attention, you'll see that Nicorette and its ilk want you to stay with the product. They sell lifestyle. Prescription products advertise 6-month quitting programs. "It's so hard to quit, so I saw my doctor."

Quitting smoking takes 1 second. Put it out. Snus should be up there as a reliable and enjoyable alternative. Instead, we're subject to newspaper wars between Big Tobacco & Big Pharma such as what we've seen in WSJ and USN&WR.