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  • darkwing
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    • Oct 2007
    • 415

    #1

    Snus dangers - US News and World Report

    Caution: Don't Assume 'Smokeless' Substitutes for Cigarettes Are Safe
    Products like snus get around smoking bans, but they may carry health risks and hinder quitting
    By Sarah Baldauf
    Posted January 13, 2009
    The ability to use tobacco in its most popular form—cigarettes—has been taking a hit in recent years, in great part because of a rising tide of smoking bans and per-pack tax hikes. But getting a nicotine fix isn't just about lighting up. The American Lung Association's new annual report, State of Tobacco Control, notes an expanding product line: new smokeless alternatives to cigarettes.

    Snus, a small, teabag-like pouch with tobacco inside that is commonly used in Sweden and elsewhere, is now being marketed in the United States under the Camel and Marlboro brand names. And since last fall, dissolvable tobacco products by Camel—in the form of toothpick-like "sticks," tablet-shaped "orbs," and stamp-sized melting "strips"—have been test-marketed in Columbus, Ohio; Indianapolis, Ind.; and Portland, Ore. Unlike the familiar bump of loose tobacco jammed between lip and gum, the newer products are promoted as "spitless" options. "Adults can continue to enjoy tobacco pleasure in places where they can't smoke," says David Howard, spokesman for Reynolds American, Camel's parent company. "The products meet societal expectations."

    But some experts warn of health concerns. Using snus is less risky than smoking a cigarette, but "it's like saying you can reduce your harm if you jump out of a fifth-story window instead of a 20th-story window," says Stanton Glantz, director of the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California-San Francisco. Research suggests that using snus raises the risk of pancreatic cancer, and it may also boost the likelihood of oral cancers and negatively affect the cardiovascular system, though the evidence is not as definitive.

    Moreover, Dorothy Hatsukami, director of the Transdisciplinary Tobacco Use Research Center at the University of Minnesota, predicts that "snus is not going to be a complete substitute for cigarettes." Using smokeless tobacco to wean oneself off of cigarettes—an idea that has been floated by some—is unproven, especially in comparison to nicotine replacement therapy medicines, she points out. Indeed, consumers may become "dual users" who smoke when they can but tuck a snus packet into their lip when, say, on an airplane or at the office.

    Tags: smoking and tobacco | American Lung Association
  • Coffey
    Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 150

    #2
    God, am I getting sick of these "scientific" articles that claim to prove snus is no good, while at the same time using phrases such as "may be" and "could possibly." I just posted a comment on USN&WR, something I've never done, because this is possible the most poorly researched article I've ever read, and to be put into the respected USN&WR simply infuriates me.

    *End rant*

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    • deebocools
      Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 661

      #3
      1- you CAN reduce your harm by jumping out of a 5th story window instead of a 20th story one. and if you adjust this to the actual harm from snus vs. cigarettes; the cigs are jumping out of a 20 story window and the snus is taking the elevator.

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      • deebocools
        Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 661

        #4
        2- interesting that they say "there's no proof" that snus can be used to quit cigs.... but show nothing to disprove it. so they're screaming about the lack of research. well, me too! but if it was up to them they wouldn't do any research that could disprove their foregone conclusion

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        • Chrisray4
          New Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 7

          #5
          Big Pharma

          Weird how nicotine products big pharma sell such as commit, nicoderm, and nicorette ar perfectly safe. However, if they dont sell it its bad for you???

          From the makers of Phen-fen "If we dont make it it will Kill You"!

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          • Hoovie
            Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 109

            #6
            Excellent point Chris

            If we sell it in a gum or lozenge, it is perfectly safe and bought at any major store

            On the other hand, if it comes in dissolvable strips, toothpick like form, or anything else (like a teabag)... it is EVIL AND UNHEALTHY

            Wait the second group APPEALS TO THE KIDS

            b/c no kids I know chew flavored gum... no wait

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            • luckysealy
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 281

              #7
              since they can make claims with no evidence, and use terms like may and possibly do bad things. i want to make the claim that using snus may raise your i.q. and make you better in bed.

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              • Jason
                Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1370

                #8
                Re: Big Pharma

                Originally posted by Chrisray4

                From the makers of Phen-fen "If we dont make it it will Kill You"!
                LOL, that reminded me of this movie...

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ArDB7AJAI

                Metamucil. It helps you go to the toilet. If you don't use it, you'll get cancer and die.

                :lol:

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                • Chrisray4
                  New Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 7

                  #9
                  LOL Jason

                  "We cant level with America we are in advertising".


                  I am sure glad there is global warming or all those people up north would be cold!

                  Some other great ones.......

                  "ulcers are caused from stress".......I mean bacteria.
                  "Eggs are bad, I mean good, I mean bad"..........
                  "Low carb diets dont work".
                  Heroin was created and given to soldiers because morphine was too addictive.
                  "Alcohol causes penicillin not to work"
                  Demerol was created because heroin and morphine are addictive.
                  "smoking is good for you"
                  "the world is flat"
                  "the world is the center of the universe".
                  "this will be the most active hurricane season on record........unless it isnt"

                  my point

                  Science can be wrong if it serves their purpose.

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                  • ponysoprano
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 562

                    #10
                    Myself and many of us posting here are proof that snus works to kick smoking. Haven't wanted a smoke since the day I quit July 4th '08.

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                    • sagedil
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 7077

                      #11
                      Someone should track down the author and at least point them here. Geez, the stupidity.

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                      • TropicalBob
                        Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 316

                        #12
                        I think what you guys are bent out of shape about are the "facts" provided by the health organization. The writer accepted those and couched the statements with cautionary words: May, might, indicated, whatever.

                        And let it be noted that a personal success story proves nothing except one person, one story, one unique result. You do not want snus to be considered for "smoking cessation." In order for it to be so declared, it would have to undergo rigorous clinical trials and be approved by the FDA, the same as all NRT products have been. No one but Big Pharma has that kind of money.

                        Snus must remain a tobacco harm reduction alternative.

                        No matter how many anecdotal stories you accumulate, they prove nothing. Only scientific studies prove things. I quit with snus, too. July 17, 2008. Big deal. No proof of anything except that snus helped me.

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                        • thatguyjeff
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 103

                          #13
                          Um....
                          I've never jumped from a 20-story window before. But I do smoke. And I'm pretty sure smoking a cig is nothing like falling 200 feet. If it was, I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have been around to smoke more than once.

                          They make it sound like it's instant death to smoke once with that cluster **** of an analogy.

                          I'd say smoking is more akin to not wearing your seatbelt. It's not guaranteed to kill you, but it might. And snusing? You're wearing your seatbelt, but maybe you're speeding a little.

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                          • turbozed
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 15

                            #14
                            Technically, everything she says is true. This is because she's using non-commital terms like "may" at every chance. Another trick she uses in language is to emphasize that "no research exists to prove" snus safety yet fails to balance it out by stating that research does exist that indicates that snus is not linked to certain diseases that worry consumers (lung and oral cancer).

                            Basically, she's being like Michael Moore, presenting half truths in a certain way to trick gullible people into sharing her viewpoint. And her viewpoint is most likely this: "tobacco is bad and eliminating it is important than the health of human beings."

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                            • mwood72

                              #15
                              I think the question still is what is more dangerous? snus or cigarettes? cigarettes by a mile surely? Sure snus has it's health risks but I'd much rather go through 1/2 a tin of Skruf Stark a day than smoke 20 B&H Golds a day! As most people have found NRT just doesn't cut the mustard and so surely you're beter off snusing than smoking if you can't kick the nic?! I know my breathing has improved considerably since switching.

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