Heat Pasturization products?

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Ligget Vector grup is very large US tobacco company and back in 2004 2005 they chose us as safest snus producer in scandinavia for them ))))))) they have done lots of studis to come to thet decision .... you can ask why it went to hell on us market ,,,, becose they wanted snus to not be putted in refregerator and it got to be closer to camel it is there competitor and so on we have no idea of us market and did what they sad us to do even we have doubts that that tipe of snus will succid on us market i am talking about Grand Prix and Tourney.....

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

GN,

Thank you for taking the time to explain all of this. There is something to be said for a company spending time to explain thier product to the consumer.

I just want to clear a few things up.

I never came to snuson or this thread to stir things up or slander anyone. I'm sorry GN if you felt i was. I started the thread for answers. I put the article in the tread for opinions, not to say you were out to harm anyone.

I hope we all can move on and enjoy this great site together!

absolutly brother and frosted is good guy belive me he is Irishe and can give his life for freands ....... and others here as well ))))))))

[lxskllr]

Don't get me wrong...I use snuff everyday, lol. I've just never seen a single study or any evidence that would "prove" it safer than snus. However, your observations do make sense to me, and honestly I'm going to continue using snuff, but didn't know if he had seen studies on it. I'm going to look now, lol

To put some numbers to my opinion... I searched long and hard for awhile looking for health problems regarding both snus, and snuff. For snuff I found a VERY QUESTIONABLE report from the 18th century, by someone who may or may not have been a doctor, and with ZERO corroborating documentation, so I gave it the weight it deserves(none). OTOH, I found ONE report of snus likely causing mouth cancer from modern times, and it's fairly well documented. It was on a 90 year old man that had been using snus for 70 years. Pretty exceptional circumstances, I think we can agree. Even so, that's one more report than I found with snuff, so I conclude that snuff is safer :^D

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Now Salt time you keep it i can not say where and few more details like for example bucterya can live in muchine and harm people if you not properly clean that machine and do not use salt and............... so on . we are in close reletions with eurofins as other snus producer freands no one in sweden ocused us in that what that guy form that central said what has heppened is folowing and it is very important tó know...

[Ansel]

All i can say after being back on the snus following a five day binge (due to logistical reasons) on dirty cigarettes bad for my body and mind is... snus FTW.

[Frosted]

GN,

Thank you for taking the time to explain all of this. There is something to be said for a company spending time to explain thier product to the consumer.

I just want to clear a few things up.

I never came to snuson or this thread to stir things up or slander anyone. I'm sorry GN if you felt i was. I started the thread for answers. I put the article in the tread for opinions, not to say you were out to harm anyone.

I hope we all can move on and enjoy this great site together!

If your intentions were in fact genuine you have my sincerest apology.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Now Salt time you keep it i can not say where and few more details like for example bucterya can live in muchine and harm people if you not properly clean that machine and do not use salt and............... so on . we are in close reletions with eurofins as other snus producer freands no one in sweden ocused us in that what that guy form that central said what has heppened is folowing and it is very important tó know...

we never been on snus comunity before and Larry asks our Gajane Guay how do you make your snus he do not know ask some one in factory is it stem pastorisation they say know he thinks that if Larry asks Steam or heat and factory says is not steam he concludes then it is heat and he says it naivly to him and that guy uses that against us we say to our fraend from Gajane you great id.... what have you done becose we have noticed haw people around warld hated us but we could not explai .... duds it is not tru ))))))............

[Bigblue1]

My thoughts are as follows, Nobody jumped the OP's throat. All that happened was we were asking for documentation for some salacious claims. A certain party took offense to that and got snippy which led to some well respected members following suit. As far as I'm concerned no hard feelings. But we are a bright bunch who have done our research, so if your gonna make claims best be able to back them up.... Peace.......

[whalen]

I think it is the fiberglass in the snus that really causes a lot of the harm!

[Frosted]

I think it is the fiberglass in the snus that really causes a lot of the harm!

Lmao .... glad you could make it.

[whalen]

GN tells me that the CO girls do not use fiberglass at all in the snus they make, they use a proprietary unicorn dust, right GN?

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Now our making of snus is not mass produkt and not American way ( we do not say american is bed ) our way is to get great snus to you ........... remeber when i said about high nic and tsna? now if i now it if i know how we were harmed by misleding info how could i dear to produce Highest level of nicotin snus if i know what waiting us ..... only knowlige of right hegest level of nicotine and lowest lewel of tsna in tobacco ))))))) and remeber some timese one year can be good for tsna in tobacco the other year very bed it is natural produkt but as i seid before cofee as well contains nicotine)))))

[whalen]

I see you are a star now Sir Frosted, groupies and caterers, lions tigers and bears, oh my! Congrats!

[EricHill78]

I think if one is paranoid or overtly concerned about tobacco products, they should just quit.

Exactly.. no tobacco is 100 percent safe. If you are going to split hairs you might as well shove a chantix up yer ass and do a Justin Bieber fan video on youtube.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

GN tells me that the CO girls do not use fiberglass at all in the snus they make, they use a proprietary unicorn dust, right GN?

bro you are tobacco grower am i right about tobacco ???And what heppened with snuff