Got busted by undercover cop selling my snus :D Nazis & WW2 & Concentration Camp O MY

[tom502]

Joe is obviously a zionist shill. But that's his business, he's got lots of company.
But this topic is important, because it is tied into all current events, and wars.
Israel is built on top of a house of cards called the holocaust.

People's general reaction to this new info, is, sadly, why we end up with an Obama, and multiple war fronts, and a failed economy, etc.

[sgreger1]

Holy shit. Even this thread turned into a discussion on the holocaust. Pretty soon holocaust will be above assplay beaverbox in the search field.

My two cents is that the holocaust was terrible, regardless of the number who died. I dont think it should be illegal to question it though.

[danielan]

So I take it you're leading the charge to get Joe234 to recant his threat of boycotting??

O O Pick Me! Pick Me! If Sage got to be the "Official Greeter" can I be the official, "Convince Idiots to Not Leave Guy"? I promise to perform my "duties" with all of the zeal that they merit...

Pretty soon holocaust will be above assplay beaverbox in the search field.

This is unacceptable... To the Search box!!!!

[dxh]

Joe i understand if u are a jewish and take it as offence. Id take it too if russians or anyone else say they saved us. But its just my opinion and i cant imagine that many people just killed.
German army consisted of about 13 million from 1939-1945
More than 1/3 wasnt german and propably dint participate in Holocaust. How can an army of say 8mil, most of them on front, slaughter 6 million people. This number for me is just too huge.

I mean even a mil is too huge. I know and understand the killing took place, i've even visited auschwitch camp in poland, but the yeah i guess im diminisher.

They used some IBM punchcard machines to make killing very efficient, but I was not there. I can't say how many were killed.

[danielan]

They used some IBM punchcard machines to make killing very efficient, but I was not there. I can't say how many were killed.

In an ironic twist - we used IBM rifles to kill Nazi's so in the end maybe it evens out a bit.

http://www.katsko.net/Firearms/M1Carb/m1cIBMusd.html

[dxh]

In an ironic twist - we used IBM rifles to kill Nazi's so in the end maybe it evens out a bit.

http://www.katsko.net/Firearms/M1Carb/m1cIBMusd.html

They will make money....no matter what. I did not know IBM made guns. Interesting.

Want a fanta?

[Curtisp]

Joe is obviously a zionist shill. But that's his business, he's got lots of company.
But this topic is important, because it is tied into all current events, and wars.
Israel is built on top of a house of cards called the holocaust.

People's general reaction to this new info, is, sadly, why we end up with an Obama, and multiple war fronts, and a failed economy, etc.

New Anti-Semitism

“The most worrying discovery of this inquiry is that anti-Jewish sentiment is entering the mainstream, appearing in everyday conversations of people who consider themselves neither racist nor prejudiced.”

Labour MP Denis MacShane, Chair of the 2006 U.K. All- Party Parliamentary Inquiry Into Anti-Semitism, as quoted by The Guardian on September 7, 2006

While traditional anti-Semitism remains prevalent among extremist fringe groups and populations where xenophobic attitudes persist, “new anti-Semitism” commonly manifests itself in the guise of opposition to Zionism and the existence and/or policies of the state of Israel.

Traditional anti-Semitism, with its historic linkage to Nazism and fascism, tends to be overt and is considered unacceptable and illegitimate by much of the mainstream in Western Europe, North America, and beyond. In contrast, new anti-Semitism, characterized by anti-Zionist and anti-Israel criticism that is anti-Semitic in its effect—whether or not in its intent—is more subtle and thus frequently escapes condemnation.

According to the EUMC definition, regardless of the motive, anti-Zionist and anti-Israel criticism become anti-Semitic when they entail:

•Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination,

•Applying double standards to Israel,

•Using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism to characterize Israel or Israelis,

•Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis, or

•Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

Motives for criticizing Israel may stem from legitimate concerns over policy, or from illegitimate prejudices. This report does not purport to ascribe motive to the various critics of Irsrael. However, disproportionate criticism of the Jewish State and/or Israelis and demonizing them as barbaric, unprincipled, selfish, inhumane, etc. is anti-Semitic and has the effect of causing global audiences to associate those bad attributes with Jews in general. Similar to the way that constant news coverage associating Muslims with terrorism, or blacks with crime, can have the effect of promoting anti-Muslim or anti-black prejudice, respectively, constant and disproportionate criticism of Israel can have the effect of promoting anti-Jewish prejudice.


This from the USA state department page. I am not jewish. I do have many friends and some in- laws that are. I served my country proudly for years, protecting our rights to free speech, etc. But a few of the posts here are not only anti- semitic in nature, they are inherently un-american. I will no longer post to this thread, i came to snuson for info and support about a product. And to quit smoking, which i am pleased to say i have. But this thread and many others within this forum have as of late, become embattled with in fighting, about religion, politics, our president. Whom i did not vote for, but support because he is after all, my commander in chief. I fear for our future as a nation, i really do. Maybe all the bad news, recession, etc. is the cause, i do not know. I do know that alot of the animus and side taking is pre-cursor to civil war. I learned this at our war college. I love my country, i have had oppurtunity to visit and live in many others. There is no place better, believe me. If i "flamed" anyone here, or offended prior, i apologize. I am no forums expert, and do not pretend to be. Perhaps, i will just "lurk" in the future. Best wishes to you all.

[tom502]

Political, and historical, and controversial subjects are not for everyone, and that's fine. No one here is forced to participate in threads they don't like. Some people do like such topics, which is is why they exist. If one does not like a certain subject that is being discussed, simply don't read them and don't participate.

[sgreger1]

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...019513292.html

This ones for you tom. Netenyahu saying US is easly manipulated.

[tom502]

Cool.

This is a good one too:
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/

[lxskllr]

According to the EUMC definition, regardless of the motive, anti-Zionist and anti-Israel criticism become anti-Semitic when they entail:

•Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination,

•Applying double standards to Israel,

•Using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism to characterize Israel or Israelis,

•Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis, or

•Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

Motives for criticizing Israel may stem from legitimate concerns over policy, or from illegitimate prejudices. This report does not purport to ascribe motive to the various critics of Irsrael. However, disproportionate criticism of the Jewish State and/or Israelis and demonizing them as barbaric, unprincipled, selfish, inhumane, etc. is anti-Semitic and has the effect of causing global audiences to associate those bad attributes with Jews in general. Similar to the way that constant news coverage associating Muslims with terrorism, or blacks with crime, can have the effect of promoting anti-Muslim or anti-black prejudice, respectively, constant and disproportionate criticism of Israel can have the effect of promoting anti-Jewish prejudice.

So they're untouchable? Somehow they have GREATER rights than everyone else in the world? They're not to be criticized, satirized, sanctioned, or impugned in any fashion? They really are god's chosen people.... :^S

[tom502]

This link has a lot of good political art:
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/deesA1.htm

[krahv]

This is pretty outrages what so popular people and supposedly intelligent people has to say about it.

Is this just racial discrimination or where does this hate come from ? I mean are jews really that bad ?

[lxskllr]

A lot of that is just a pissing match by fairytale believers. One isn't any more valid than another.

[truthwolf1]

This link has a lot of good political art:
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/deesA1.htm

I really like his stuff and have posted many of those here. Maybe if he switched to snus he might find his way here.