Gay pride parade

[NonServiam]

The outrageous behavior sgreger witnessed is really more of a symptom of the curious and unique atmosphere of the People's Republic of San Francisco than any wider sign of ill-civilized tendencies in other less fevered precincts. SF could not be more of an island, in all respects conceptually and politically, even if there was an arm of the bay cutting through south of the city. I speak as one with great affection for friends there, in the Castro even, but they could not be more insulated from what most of us consider "normality" in the rest of the country. It is an insular Progressive hothouse powered by big big money that by and large has relegated the petit bourgouisie to hapless commuters from those crude urban swamps across the bay who must kick in seven bucks to merely gain access to the exalted environs of the "city".

Darwin, I'm not exactly sure what you just said...but it sounds good. You should be in politics. Just kiddin', I follow ya....I think I normally pride myself on vocabulary, but I'm gonna have to google " bourgouisie".

[Roo]

I am perfectly fine being around them and more accepting then most but I just dont agree at all with gay marriage or gay couples/singles adopting kids.

Really? Fathers who abandon, or are abusive, neglecting, and violent are a dime a dozen. How can that be preferable to two nurturing parents of the same sex who adopt with qualitative measures taken to ensure that good parenting is to follow? Sure, those measures aren't fool-proof, nor is abusive, neglecting, and violent behavior exclusive to heterosexuals or men. You would rather have orphans living out their formative days bouncing around the system than being adopted by two people of the same sex who's lifestyle you don't agree with? Just curious: Do you think homosexuality is learned? Not trying to attack here just posing some questions.

[sgreger1]

I know plenty of gay folks in Alabama. One is my stylist, and his partner is his assistant. Those guys have been together since I was born in 1977. They're awesome guys that you could count on for anything.
I'm totally and completely on the side of the gay folks in whatever kind of equality they deserve. Except the big hairy ass raping bears. Those dudes freak me right out.

I should clarify my intent. I was not saying anything bad about gays or anything like that, I was saying that at the gay pride parade it was filled with the equivalent of horny circus clowns. I was just amazed that like 3 guys can have sex in public without getting in trouble (since it's illegal for me to do that).



Anyways, I have gay family members I'm not saying theres no gays in Alabama or anything of the sort, I'm saying sf is full of freaks and weirdos of a sort that you do not find in other states.



EDIT: ok after reading all the comments, guys don't turn this into a thread about whether or not you do or don't like gays. Nobody cares. Some of you have obviously never been to San Fran. There is a whole different type of freak in San Fran in general, and the gays (being both San franciscans and gay) take it to a whole new level lol it was amazing.


I consider myself conservative on many topics but with gay marriage I remain libertarian. I personally think it's weird but I don't think the gov has any right to say two people in love can't get married. I am voting to overturn prop 8 which banned gay marriage last election cycle.

[NonServiam]

I'm saying sf is full of freaks and weirdos of a sort that you do not find in other states.

Sounds like I should take a trip to San Fran. One of my favorite things to do is just sit down somewhere and people-watch. I'm really interested in sociology and psychology. It's kind of like bird-watching, except they don't poop on your head. Nevermind, head-poopin' is probably happening in San Fran too isn't it

[sgreger1]

Sounds like I should take a trip to San Fran. One of my favorite things to do is just sit down somewhere and people-watch. I'm really interested in sociology and psychology. It's kind of like bird-watching, except they don't poop on your head. Nevermind, head-poopin' is probably happening in San Fran too isn't it

I love people watching too and that's why I enjoyed the festival. I think it furthers a negative stereotype of homosexuals though. I have a gay uncle for example and he is against this gay festival because it portrays gays as different than normal people, which thus far has not been my observation. But its San Fran, everyone is a weirdo so I wouldn't expect any less.

[truthwolf1]

Really? Fathers who abandon, or are abusive, neglecting, and violent are a dime a dozen. How can that be preferable to two nurturing parents of the same sex who adopt with qualitative measures taken to ensure that good parenting is to follow? Sure, those measures aren't fool-proof, nor is abusive, neglecting, and violent behavior exclusive to heterosexuals or men. You would rather have orphans living out their formative days bouncing around the system than being adopted by two people of the same sex who's lifestyle you don't agree with? Just curious: Do you think homosexuality is learned? Not trying to attack here just posing some questions.

I dont agree with two gay men adopting mainly. Pedophelia and the blatant attraction to young boys on that point.

Lesbians really dont bother me at all but there still is the missing father figure. The gay men friends I do have been gay ever since we were kids and the lesbian one's who could not find boyfriends switched later. So, I think sometimes it is learned and other times natural.

In time though I believe they will win the right to marry and adopt but I just dont agree with it. When I think deep it is more about my views on natural order and how the feminine side equals with the masculine. A yin and yang with nature. Just like a single woman who wants to have a child without a father irks me.
Kids are not accessories!

[NonServiam]

Truthwolf- Just like a single woman who wants to have a child without a father irks me.
Kids are not accessories!

I will agree with you there.

[tom502]

I think there are quality and non quality people of all sexual orientations.
Personally, I think it best for a child to have a male father and a female mother.
Of course many bad parents exist. And many good meaning, and good doing single parents exist.
I do think, since it takes a man and woman to create a child naturally, the natural family unit is a man and a woman.

[Roo]

I dont agree with two gay men adopting mainly. Pedophelia and the blatant attraction to young boys on that point.

Holy shit. Gay men are blatantly attracted to children?? Dude I don't know where to begin on that one, other than that your statement is shockingly false. Male pedophiles who molest male children are not homosexual, they are sick pedophiles. They don't like men, they like children. Man that was a f*kd up thing to say... Again, not trying to pick any fights. I should stay out of it.

[Frosted]

Got to agree with your sentiments on that Roo - even though I don't agree with same sex couples having kids.
If what Truthwolf says is true, by the same token it should follow that all fathers who have daughters are paedophiles - which of course is ridiculous in the extreme and actually extremely offensive.

[Roo]

Got to agree with your sentiments on that Roo - even though I don't agree with same sex couples having kids.
If what Truthwolf says is true, by the same token it should follow that all fathers who have daughters are paedophiles - which of course is ridiculous in the extreme and actually extremely offensive.

Excellent point Frosted, you speak the truth. I'm attracted to women, yet there is no cause for concern if I adopt a little girl, or have one of my own. That comment was just crazy and offensive as hell. Oh well, some people do think like that, and we're bound to come across them at some point. It's nice though to get an opportunity to point out the falacy in that line of thinking.

[desirexe]

Really? Fathers who abandon, or are abusive, neglecting, and violent are a dime a dozen. How can that be preferable to two nurturing parents of the same sex who adopt with qualitative measures taken to ensure that good parenting is to follow? Sure, those measures aren't fool-proof, nor is abusive, neglecting, and violent behavior exclusive to heterosexuals or men. You would rather have orphans living out their formative days bouncing around the system than being adopted by two people of the same sex who's lifestyle you don't agree with? Just curious: Do you think homosexuality is learned? Not trying to attack here just posing some questions.

Couldn't agree more Roo! My cuz is gay and has been with his partner for 10 years. It saddens me when I hear him speak of his desires for a "normal" lifestyle: marriage, kids, full acceptance of who he is, etc. Limiting a group of people from enjoying any aspect of the American way is just downright discrimination and I hope to see this crap disappear in my lifetime. Back on topic - I've never attended a gay pride event but they sound like a good, FUN time, just maybe not with the entire family.

[tom502]

Some people may think that, and I do not agree it's the norm, but such things do happen. Though I'd say it's not the norm. I think there are more logical reasons to not support gays with children.

[desirexe]

EDIT: ok after reading all the comments, guys don't turn this into a thread about whether or not you do or don't like gays. Nobody cares. Some of you have obviously never been to San Fran. There is a whole different type of freak in San Fran in general, and the gays (being both San franciscans and gay) take it to a whole new level lol it was amazing.

You know that's impossible right??? It's hard enough to keep a thread on topic that pertains to a specific snus!

[tom502]

Did you participate in any of the gay orgies, sgreger?
I'm not gay, but the atmosphere might just let my freak out.