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  • sgreger1
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    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #16
    Originally posted by tom502 View Post
    I didn't have a happy home life, as soon as I turned 17, I joined the Navy because I wanted to get the heck out on my own.
    See that's productive though. In our society we have decided how much value our labor has and we are paid in dollars which represent the value of our labor. In our youth is when we have the most labor in us. By joining the navy, that labor potential did not go to waste but instead was used for personal gain and therefore benefitted society as a whole as well as the economy.

    Think like an evil capitalist, sitting at home not working does not breed wealth and your labor which is worth money goes to waste. That is stupid. It doesn't matter your reasoning, happy home life or not, just don't sit aruond letting life and money pass you by. The military is great for young people who want money and want to experience life.

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    • tom502
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      • Feb 2009
      • 8985

      #17
      Many, many parents, do not make their older children do anything, and enable them to do nothing. I see it alot. They's have 30 yr old kids living at home, unemployed. I think it's sad nature of people, that most will do nothing, if they don't have to. This is evident in our welfare and government housing ways and such.

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      • truthwolf1
        Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 2696

        #18
        One of the reasons for a dwindling Eastern European populations is that there are more girls getting educated and holding higher paid positions then men. Since most women do not marry down they just continue on with their career and get lucky if they pop one kid out.

        Now in the United States there are more women in school then men and same thing could happen here.

        Maybe this is all a population control tactic.

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        • jtwh20
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          • Nov 2009
          • 833

          #19
          Unfortunatley the US has people who work, and those who don't.
          Those who do, pay for thos who don't, and continue not to work.
          Why would I work at Sizzler if I could sit at home eating twinkies and diet coke, if I get this check and these food stamps...

          People will not swim if you keep throwing them a line - sink or swim, some people never even know there is another option called GETTING a JOB. - They are entitled!!!

          So now we have illegals doing the jobs that "some Americans" won't.

          I don't blame the illegals, I blame the all talk, no action our government has had since about 1986....

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          • tom502
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            • Feb 2009
            • 8985

            #20
            I saw a thing on the news they called a "Birth Hotel", which was calling for pregnant illegals to come there and have their kids to they can be automatically US citizens.

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            • sgreger1
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              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #21
              Originally posted by jtwh20 View Post
              Unfortunatley the US has people who work, and those who don't.
              Those who do, pay for thos who don't, and continue not to work.
              Why would I work at Sizzler if I could sit at home eating twinkies and diet coke, if I get this check and these food stamps...

              People will not swim if you keep throwing them a line - sink or swim, some people never even know there is another option called GETTING a JOB. - They are entitled!!!

              So now we have illegals doing the jobs that "some Americans" won't.

              I don't blame the illegals, I blame the all talk, no action our government has had since about 1986....


              Exactly! And I don't fault illegals either. The illegals for the most part are capitalist, and much better ones than Americans. Think about it, at a minimum wage job many americans wouldn't want that job because they can get a larger check by beign unemployed. The illegals risk life and limb to come here, breaking a federal law, just to have the oppertunity of making that money. They aren't like us because their government does not breed the complacency that ours does. Their government will not pay them 800$ a month, so they are willing to abandon their families or country and risk their lives just to come here for the oppertunity of making 800$ a check. Here in America, for a citizen that opertunity is waiting down the street and we can apply at any time, yet we don't. It's because the government is filled with lawyers and not thinkers. They are handing out fish instead of teaching us to fish.


              I can't wait for there to be a class in school called "How to profit from welfare", or "How to survive in a welfare based economy".


              I feel the same way about drug drealers. They could sit at home just getting welfare, but they get out and risk their ass selling something people want to make money so they can live a better life. It's the wrong way of doing it but it is capitalist in nature and capitalism is what will bring you success in life, wanting to provide labor in return for money, NOT socialism/communism where you just sit around waiting for the government to pay you for doing menial tasks.

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              • tom502
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 8985

                #22
                Residents get 6 votes each in suburban NY election

                Writer Jim Fitzgerald, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jun 15, 11:41 am ET
                PORT CHESTER, N.Y. – Arthur Furano voted early — five days before Election Day. And he voted often, flipping the lever six times for his favorite candidate.

                Furano cast multiple votes on the instructions of a federal judge and the U.S. Department of Justice as part of a new election system crafted to help boost Hispanic representation.

                Voters in Port Chester, 25 miles northeast of New York City, are electing village trustees for the first time since the federal government alleged in 2006 that the existing election system was unfair. The election ends Tuesday and results are expected late Tuesday night.

                Although the village of about 30,000 residents is nearly half Hispanic, no Latino had ever been elected to any of the six trustee seats, which until now were chosen in a conventional at-large election. Most voters were white, and white candidates always won.

                Federal Judge Stephen Robinson said that violated the Voting Rights Act, and he approved a remedy suggested by village officials: a system called cumulative voting, in which residents get six votes each to apportion as they wish among the candidates. He rejected a government proposal to break the village into six districts, including one that took in heavily Hispanic areas.

                Furano and his wife, Gloria Furano, voted Thursday.

                "That was very strange," Arthur Furano, 80, said after voting. "I'm not sure I liked it. All my life, I've heard, 'one man, one vote.'"

                It's the first time any municipality in New York has used cumulative voting, said Amy Ngai, a director at FairVote, a nonprofit election research and reform group that has been hired to consult. The system is used to elect the school board in Amarillo, Texas, the county commission in Chilton County, Ala., and the City Council in Peoria, Ill.

                The judge also ordered Port Chester to implement in-person early voting, allowing residents to show up on any of five days to cast ballots. That, too, is a first in New York, Ngai said.

                Village clerk Joan Mancuso said Monday that 604 residents voted early.

                Gloria Furano gave one vote each to six candidates. Aaron Conetta gave two votes each to three candidates.

                Frances Nurena talked to the inspectors about the new system, grabbed some educational material and went home to study. After all, it was only Thursday. She could vote on Friday, Saturday or Tuesday.

                "I understand the voting," she said. "But since I have time, I'm going to learn more about the candidates."

                On Tuesday, Candida Sandoval voted at the Don Bosco Center, where a soup kitchen and day-laborer hiring center added to the activity, and where federal observers watched the voting from a table in the corner.

                "I hope that if Hispanics get in, they do something for all the Hispanic people," Sandoval said in Spanish. "I don't know, but I hope so."

                FairVote said cumulative voting allows a political minority to gain representation if it organizes and focuses its voting strength on specific candidates. Two of the 13 Port Chester trustee candidates — one Democrat and one Republican — are Hispanic. A third Hispanic is running a write-in campaign after being taken off the ballot on a technicality.

                Campaigning was generally low-key, and the election itself was less of an issue than housing density and taxes.

                Hispanic candidates Fabiola Montoya and Luis Marino emphasized their volunteer work and said they would represent all residents if elected.

                Gregg Gregory gave all his votes to one candidate, then said, "I think this is terrific. It's good for Port Chester. It opens it up to a lot more people, not just Hispanics but independents, too."

                Vote coordinator Martha Lopez said that if turnout is higher than in recent years, when it hovered around 25 percent, the election would be a success — regardless of whether a Hispanic was elected.

                "I think we'll make it," she said. "I'm happy to report the people seem very interested."

                But Randolph McLaughlin, who represented a plaintiff in the lawsuit, said the goal was not merely to encourage more Hispanics to vote but "to create a system whereby the Hispanic community would be able to nominate and elect a candidate of their choice."

                That could be a non-Hispanic, he acknowledged, and until exit polling is done, "it won't be known for sure whether the winners were Hispanic-preferred."

                The village held 12 forums — six each in English and Spanish — to let voters know about the new system and to practice voting. The bilingual ballot lists each candidate across the top row — some of them twice if they have two party lines — and then the same candidates are listed five more times. In all, there are 114 levers; voters can flip any six.

                Besides the forums, bright yellow T-shirts, tote bags and lawn signs declared "Your voice, your vote, your village," part of the educational materials also mandated in the government agreement. Announcements were made on cable TV in each language.

                All such materials — the ballot, the brochures, the TV spots, the reminders sent home in schoolkids' backpacks — had to be approved in advance, in English and Spanish versions, by the Department of Justice.

                Conetta said the voter education effort was so thorough he found voting easier than usual.

                "It was very different but actually quite simple," he said. "No problem."

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                • RobsanX
                  Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2030

                  #23
                  Because the illegal immigrants won't turn them in to the Health Department! HAH!

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                  • sgreger1
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    #24
                    Tom, I heard about that. Now if your hispanic you get 6 votes but if your white you only get 1, this is to " create a system whereby the Hispanic community would be able to nominate and elect a candidate of their choice."


                    Democracy is dead.

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                    • tom502
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 8985

                      #25
                      It has, and it's racist.

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                      • WickedKitchen
                        Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2528

                        #26
                        Yes, but whitie is nearly the minority now and it seems that will continue. It will be a very different world in a few decades.

                        The problem I have is this:
                        "I hope that if Hispanics get in, they do something for all the Hispanic people," Sandoval said in Spanish. "I don't know, but I hope so."

                        Ok, maybe this person hasn't justified it, but what is it that all the Hispanic people need done for them that's different from what's done for everyone else? I think that's the mentality though for many groups. Someday it might be for Caucasians. I'm sure it is somewhere already. When I hear things like that it makes me feel like that group believes that it's owed something. Maybe it is, but what and why are they different? You rarely hear why but you hear the drum beat that something should be done. something should be done. something should be done.

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                        • sgreger1
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 9451

                          #27
                          Originally posted by WickedKitchen View Post
                          Yes, but whitie is nearly the minority now and it seems that will continue. It will be a very different world in a few decades.

                          The problem I have is this:
                          "I hope that if Hispanics get in, they do something for all the Hispanic people," Sandoval said in Spanish. "I don't know, but I hope so."

                          Ok, maybe this person hasn't justified it, but what is it that all the Hispanic people need done for them that's different from what's done for everyone else? I think that's the mentality though for many groups. Someday it might be for Caucasians. I'm sure it is somewhere already. When I hear things like that it makes me feel like that group believes that it's owed something. Maybe it is, but what and why are they different? You rarely hear why but you hear the drum beat that something should be done. something should be done. something should be done.

                          Early census data shows that in many states whites are already the minority, and by thetime im 40 it says that on a nationwide level, whites will be the vast minority. Welcome to the future, it's racist to kick out illegals because many of them are brown, but it's not racist to use the Voting Rights Act to justify giving someone 6 votes based solely on skin color.

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                          • truthwolf1
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                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2696

                            #28
                            Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                            Early census data shows that in many states whites are already the minority, and by thetime im 40 it says that on a nationwide level, whites will be the vast minority. Welcome to the future, it's racist to kick out illegals because many of them are brown, but it's not racist to use the Voting Rights Act to justify giving someone 6 votes based solely on skin color.
                            Send in the feminists and watch the population start to slow down dramatically.
                            It is time to Empower the women of ISLAM, Africa and the Catholic Latinas instead of letting them continue to breed like rabbits. Those future kids then might actually get their own room and decent education.

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                            • sgreger1
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                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #29
                              Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
                              Send in the feminists and watch the population start to slow down dramatically.
                              It is time to Empower the women of ISLAM, Africa and the Catholic Latinas instead of letting them continue to breed like rabbits. Those future kids then might actually get their own room and decent education.

                              That's a great strategy. If we could convince the Islamic women to throw off their shackles of oppresion and rise up against their male dictators and anti-woman/human rights religion, they would all get jobs and their population would decrease lol.

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                              • tom502
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                                • Feb 2009
                                • 8985

                                #30
                                In Iraq and Afganistan, instead of pandering to their neanderthalic ways, we should have enforced new laws, and freedom of religion, and a secular government, giving these people frredom to leave Islam. If these places could be cleansed of Islam, they'd probably have a modern civilization now.

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