Most Members Here Are Left Wing-Don't Let The Right Fool You

[danielan]

Well. We had a war going on that killed over 50,000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese.

I see your point - obviously the solution was to start killing cops...

I quit smoking, I can stop feeding trolls.... I can dammit...

(Oh and good job on the smoking)

[LaZeR]

It's too bad this guy got an actual discussion going the way he did. The original post is flat-out trolling, especially since he has no idea whatsoever where the majority of members stand in our political views. He reads for 2 weeks then jumps in to make a silly and false claim that is intended to get people riled up. Not trying to be harsh, just calling it as I see it based on his other inflammatory posts. Anway, that, and what bakerbarber said.

+1

Got me so riled up, I would like to shit on this thread...






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[Joe234]

I see your point - obviously the solution was to start killing cops...

I quit smoking, I can stop feeding trolls.... I can dammit...

(Oh and good job on the smoking)

No. But in our history sometimes violent acts have been
committed such as John Brown at Harper's Ferry.

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Thank you on the reinforcement for 39 days.

[Joe234]

+1

Got me so riled up, I would like to shit on this thread...


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Typical right winger.

They can only talk shit and ignore the facts.

Now I'm going to change my Avatar back to a snus
can and relax. I think I'll use Offroad Licorice. As someone
called it; The Boones Farm of snus. It seems kinda dank,
cheap and nasty.

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[LaZeR]

Typical right winger.

They can only talk shit and ignore the facts.

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.....Zing!

[lxskllr]

Eat up indeed. I won't post pictures due to their graphic nature, but you can use your imagination...

Iraq since 2003

US Dead - 4,287
US Injured - 30,182

How did we get there again? My memory isn't what it used to be....

[LaZeR]

Eat up indeed. I won't post pictures due to their graphic nature, but you can use your imagination...

Iraq since 2003

US Dead - 4,287
US Injured - 30,182

How did we get there again? My memory isn't what it used to be....

Clinton allowed them to build up their evils whilst getting head in the oral office BUT...

/I blame Bush... cauz that's whot the cOOl guYs tell me is HiP!

[timholian]

Clinton allowed them to build up their evils whilst getting head in the oral office BUT...

/I blame Bush... cauz that's whot the cOOl guYs tell me is HiP!

Wait.... didnt daddy Bush start something he didnt finish?

[GoVegan]

Eat up indeed. I won't post pictures due to their graphic nature, but you can use your imagination...

Iraq since 2003

US Dead - 4,287
US Injured - 30,182

How did we get there again? My memory isn't what it used to be....

Excellent point lxskllr and very appropriate for Memorial Day! Bring home our troops!

[Joe234]

Eat up indeed. I won't post pictures due to their graphic nature, but you can use your imagination...

Iraq since 2003

US Dead - 4,287
US Injured - 30,182

How did we get there again? My memory isn't what it used to be....

We invaded the sovereign country of Iraq on the false pretenses of Weapons
of Mass Destruction (WMDs). Also Saddam Hussein had nothing whatsoever
to do with 911. As a tyrannical secular dictator, who acted like a Muslim, he would
have executed any and all Al Qaida as a threat to his regime.

Apparently the Bush administration never took Poli Sci 101.
You don't invade a sovereign country because you dislike
their leader. Also one sometimes leaves a tyrant in power as
to not upset the balance.

Now Al Qaida and others are in Iraq. Saddam would have
kept Iran in check also.

Nice one GW!

[lxskllr]

Hmm... See, I don't remember it way. I remember us having a pretty good relationship with Iraq. They'd lock onto our planes with RADAR, and we'd blowup their RADAR installations. I remember it being a well orchestrated game, and everybody knew their place. Somehow the stakes got raised, and it all went downhill quickly.

Edit:
Responding to LaZer of course :^)

[LaZeR]

Hmm... See, I don't remember it way. I remember us having a pretty good relationship with Iraq. They'd lock onto our planes with RADAR, and we'd blowup their RADAR installations. I remember it being a well orchestrated game, and everybody knew their place. Somehow the stakes got raised, and it all went downhill quickly.

Edit:
Responding to LaZer of course :^)

*space reserved for proper response* I'm still searching for a certain picture. ;---)

[GoVegan]

Lets face it, Saddam Hussein was just one of a long line of dictators that we initially supported and then turned against. Just like in the Philippines and Panama. We thought Hussein had chemical weapons because we gave him a bunch a while ago to use against Iran. We also failed to realize that unfortunately, some countries do need to be governed by brute force. Hussein sucked but he had absolute control over his country and was our friend for years. I think we erred by not leaving behind a strong multinational force in Iraq after the 1st war to ensure that the conditions of the peace treaty were being met and that inspectors had access to wherever they needed to go. My guess is that Saddam was uncooperative as he was afraid of the Iranians seeing how weak his military had become.

The way we fought the last war also made me sick to my stomach. There used to be honor and pride in treating prisoners humanely and following the Geneva Conventions to the letter. A lot of that was tossed out during the last war and that is just a shame. I honestly don't give a fu** how bad or evil the other side is or was. We should never lower ourselves to the same standards. Bush sucks for getting our country and our troops involved in this and Obama sucks for not pulling us out and closing Guantanamo timely.

[lxskllr]

...Obama sucks for not pulling us out...

That's where I differ from many people. I'm against pulling out until it's fixed to the best of our ability. Pulling out would be like me offering to help you clean your house. I pull everything out of the drawers, break your dishes, piss on the carpet, and kill your cat. Then walk out saying your welcome for the help :^S

We had no business going in there, but now that we're in place we need to make things right.

[justintempler]

We invaded the sovereign country of Iraq on the false pretenses of Weapons
of Mass Destruction (WMDs). Also Saddam Hussein had nothing whatsoever
to do with 911. As a tyrannical secular dictator, who acted like a Muslim, he would
have executed any and all Al Qaida as a threat to his regime.

Apparently the Bush administration never took Poli Sci 101.
You don't invade a sovereign country because you dislike
their leader. Also one sometimes leaves a tyrant in power as
to not upset the balance.

Now Al Qaida and others are in Iraq. Saddam would have
kept Iran in check also.

Nice one GW!

G.W. was an oil Man, Cheney was an oil man. We went there so we could "buy" their oil. WMDs had nothing to do with it.

From a speech Dick Cheney had made at the London Institute of Petroleum Autumn lunch in 1999 when he was Chairman of Halliburton:

"From the standpoint of the oil industry obviously - and I'll talk a little later on about gas - for over a hundred years we as an industry have had to deal with the pesky problem that once you find oil and pump it out of the ground you've got to turn around and find more or go out of business. Producing oil is obviously a self-depleting activity. Every year you've got to find and develop reserves equal to your output just to stand still, just to stay even. This is as true for companies as well in the broader economic sense it is for the world. A new merged company like Exxon-Mobil will have to secure over a billion and a half barrels of new oil equivalent reserves every year just to replace existing production. It's like making one hundred per cent interest; discovering another major field of some five hundred million barrels equivalent every four months or finding two Hibernias a year. For the world as a whole, oil companies are expected to keep finding and developing enough oil to offset our seventy one million plus barrel a day of oil depletion, but also to meet new demand. By some estimates there will be an average of two per cent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead along with conservatively a three per cent natural decline in production from existing reserves. That means by 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? Governments and the national oil companies are obviously in control of about ninety per cent of the assets. Oil remains fundamentally a government business. While many regions of the world offer greet oil opportunities, the Middle East with two thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies, even though companies are anxious for greater access there, progress continues to be slow. ( Bold by the author)"

http://www.peakoil.net/Publications/...eakOil_FCD.pdf

If Iraq didn't have oil we wouldn't be there.