CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT: Kinda makes you think about Princess Di.

[truthwolf1]

There is a lot of conspiracy about this dude.

[Frosted]

I am pretty sure remote-control was used in the Planes that hit the towers. There are quite a few pilots who said they could never of hit a target manually at those speeds.

That's the only thing that has personally bugged me about the twin towers attack. I didn't believe they could hit them so accurately. It would seem that to get those planes right dead centre into those towers was a bit strange - things go wrong in real life and for me reality dictates that one of those planes should have just clipped the tower. To have two dead centre hits from two very inexperienced pilots stinks.

To add to this - If electronic systems can be hacked - why were these planes not hacked by the security services? I'm positive they have the know how.

[truthwolf1]

I am pretty sure remote-control was used in the Planes that hit the towers. There are quite a few pilots who said they could never of hit a target manually at those speeds.

[Frosted]

It's like the recent Toyota problem - the electrical systems must be really open to interference.

[sgreger1]

Yah this has beena concern for a while. Services like onstar that allow remote access are even more vulnerable. This is the difficulty with everything being electronic. The terrorists and wars of the futures will be fought by hackers.

[danielan]

Or the final scene of the Charles Bronson movie "The Mechanic"

It's time for a re-make.
The note on the mirror. The countdown on the display. The bomb hooked to the the horn.

Apparently they are remaking "The Mechanic" - I hope they don't screw it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6GNu0jysQ

[Frosted]

Phew - cheers - that was quick.

[lxskllr]

please move Mods.

Done :^)

[Frosted]

AWWW - damn!! Wrong section - please move Mods.

What an idiot.

[Frosted]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10119492.stm

Hack attacks mounted on car control systems
Page last updated at 12:35 GMT, Monday, 17 May 2010 13:35 UK
E-mail this to a friendPrintable version The research team could subvert almost every car control system The computer systems used to control modern cars are very vulnerable to attack, say experts.

An investigation by security researchers found the systems to be "fragile" and easily subverted.

The researchers showed how to kill a car engine remotely, turn off the brakes so the car would not stop and make instruments give false readings.

Despite their success, the team said it would be hard for malicious attackers to reproduce their work.

Locked in

The team of researchers, led by Professor Stefan Savage from the University of California-San Diego, and Tadayoshi Kohno from the University of Washington set out to see what resilience cars had to an attack on their control systems.

"Our findings suggest that, unfortunately, the answer is 'little,'" wrote the researchers from the Center for Automotive Embedded Systems Security.

The researchers concentrated their attacks on the electronic control units (ECUs)scattered throughout modern vehicles which oversee the workings of many car components. It is thought that modern vehicles have about 100 megabytes of binary code spread across up to 70 ECUs.

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This represents an opportunity to head off a problem before it starts, in the not-too-distant future it may represent a real risk to life.
Rik Ferguson

Trend Micro
Individual control units typically oversee one sub-system but ECUs communicate so that many different systems can be controlled as the situation demands. For instance, in a crash seat belts may be pre-tensioned, doors unlocked and air bags deployed.

The attackers created software called CarShark to monitor communications between the ECUs and insert fake packets of data to carry out attacks.

The team got at the ECUs via the communications ports fitted as standard on most cars that enable mechanics to gather data about a vehicle before they begin servicing or repair work.

The researchers mounted a series of attacks against a stationary and moving vehicle to see how much of the car could fall under their control.

All modern cars are fitted with computer control systems "We are able to forcibly and completely disengage the brakes while driving, making it difficult for the driver to stop," wrote the researchers. "Conversely, we are able to forcibly activate the brakes, lurching the driver forward and causing the car to stop suddenly."

In one attack, the team transformed the instrument panel into a clock that counted down to zero from 60 seconds. In the final seconds the horn honks and as zero is reached the car engine shuts off and the doors are locked.

They found that almost every system in the car, including engine, brakes, heating and cooling, lights, instrument panel, radio and locks was vulnerable.

The team concluded that the car control software was "fragile" and easy to subvert. In some cases simply sending malformed packets of data, rather than specific control code, was enough to trigger a response.

The team are presenting a paper on their results at the IEEE symposium on Security and Privacy in California on 19 May.

"Cars benefit from the fact that they are (hopefully) not connected to the internet (yet) and currently are not able to be remotely accessed," said Rik Fergson, a security analyst at Trend Micro. "So in order to carry out a successful attack you would already need to have physical access to the vehicle, as a break-in or as a mechanic, seem the two most likely scenarios."

"As cars, and everything else in life up to and including even pacemakers or fridges, become steadily more connected and externally accessible, research such as this should be taken increasingly seriously by manufacturers," he added.

"This represents an opportunity to head off a problem before it starts, in the not-too-distant future it may represent a real risk to life."