CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT: Kinda makes you think about Princess Di.

[sgreger1]

FACT: Government has done things to american citizens in the past like spraying chemicals over cities to test the effects of radiation fallout or adding radiation to shots at hospitals to observe it's effects, to do this the government had Dr's and scientists paid off to help suppor the project.

They have done this before, no reason they aren't doing it again now.

[tom502]

The PA plane could have been messing up their plan, and just like the building they pulled so no one would find out, they may had just had to take that plane out. Also there is a paper report that that plan landed at an air port with a possible terror link, and then the papers were changed.

[chadizzy1]

^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^ I didn't want to believe it, but like sg said there is too many laws of science too many gaps of information to believe the official story. If you are a thinking person you can't believe what they've told us.

Doesn't it make you wonder how much Popular Mechanics and MythBusters and all them got paid to say they could explain it all?

[sgreger1]

I think WTC 7 was Flight 93's original target. It was intercepted and shot down. Even my ex LT.Colonel dad told me that before I even started on the conspiracy journey. The debris in the field possibly show a straight down crash that buried itself in the earth but that is a oddity also if you compare it to other crash sites. When they realized the plane was not coming they just "PULLED IT", Like Larry said.

This is one of the most interesting sites I think currently to the investigation.
http://cms.ae911truth.org/

I am not a expert, scientist or have some angry agenda with the government but with basic garage logic I could never understand how a building could drop so quickly without some resistance. This happened THREE TIMES!! that day.

I could even buy that the jet fuel caused the towers to break, but WTC 7 wasn't even hit by anything, there is just no way. Thenn add in the huge insurance policy that was taken out on these buildings and it all sounds fishy to me.

I just cannot get over that someone could jack a plane and fly it into the pentagon with no interception. And this is after the whole nation KNEW a terrorist attack was happening. I would expect heads on a stick from every security personell all the way up the chain.


As for the PA crash, I am going to give the government the benefit of the doubt on this one. If the story is true, that terrorists hijacked it and were flying it somewhere to crash it, I would expect the government to shoot it the f*ck down on site. This is not a popular option, as it looks bad in the news when our military kiled a plane worth of people, but it would be the right decision, considering the pentagon had already been bombed.

I am certain it was shot down, but this poses a problem to the conspiracy. If the official story is believed, than they shot it down to make sure it didn't hit anything. That I can agree with.
But, if the government wanted the attacks to happen, than why shoot down one of their planes mid-mission? If they shot down the PA plane, than it could not have been a conspiracy, because if they wanted it to crash into something they wouldn't have stopped it.

Either that, or the passengers really did crash the plane on purpose to stop terrorists. But you can't say theres a conspiracy by the government, and believe the government shot down their conspiracy at the same time.


Normally a conspiracy of this level would get chopped up by Ockhams razor, too many pieces in the puzzle for this to have worked, but there is just too much evidence on it's behalf. For someone to orchestrate this would require hundreds of people to be in on it and never talk, something that is hard to pull off. Yet there is evidence that something strange happened. So I don't know what to believe.

[truthwolf1]

I think WTC 7 was Flight 93's original target. It was intercepted and shot down. Even my ex LT.Colonel dad told me that before I even started on the conspiracy journey. The debris in the field possibly show a straight down crash that buried itself in the earth but that is a oddity also if you compare it to other crash sites. When they realized the plane was not coming they just "PULLED IT", Like Larry said.

This is one of the most interesting sites I think currently to the investigation.
http://cms.ae911truth.org/

I am not a expert, scientist or have some angry agenda with the government but with basic garage logic I could never understand how a building could drop so quickly without some resistance. This happened THREE TIMES!! that day.

[tom502]

Where's the black boxes, and the birth certificate?

[Bigblue1]

I'd like to point out that I never really bought into the 9/11 conspiracy untill recently. You have to realize that 9-11 was the whole basis for me joining the army, and yet the amount of evidence in favor of a conspiracy is just too much to overlook. I have read all of the debunkers articles (like pop mechanics) and while they do debunk a lot of things to my satisfaction, there are some things that just have no explanation, I mean really. For 9-11 to have played out the way it did, it would have to have been the perfect storm. I mean NORAD asleep at the wheel, amateur pilots flying like aces, every secuirty measure in the books failing, every red flag ignored, and the basic laws of physics on skyscrapers being thrown out the window.

^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^ I didn't want to believe it, but like sg said there is too many laws of science too many gaps of information to believe the official story. If you are a thinking person you can't believe what they've told us.

[Bigblue1]

Yeah the earlier cuts they were stretching at points, By the final cut they had enough real info to just, scene after scene make true statements without being to sensationalistic. You should find it on a torrent site and watch it tom, it's well produced and well researched. It will blow your mind.

[sgreger1]

I'd like to point out that I never really bought into the 9/11 conspiracy untill recently. You have to realize that 9-11 was the whole basis for me joining the army, and yet the amount of evidence in favor of a conspiracy is just too much to overlook. I have read all of the debunkers articles (like pop mechanics) and while they do debunk a lot of things to my satisfaction, there are some things that just have no explanation, I mean really. For 9-11 to have played out the way it did, it would have to have been the perfect storm. I mean NORAD asleep at the wheel, amateur pilots flying like aces, every secuirty measure in the books failing, every red flag ignored, and the basic laws of physics on skyscrapers being thrown out the window.

[tom502]

The Jesse Ventura show on 911 was very good too, for the amount of time it had to include stuff.
I have the Loose Change on dvd, I think it was the original one, some parts I didn't agree with, like Bin Laden wearing a watch on the wrong hand, maybe, I don't know.

911 In Plane Site was pretty good.

[sgreger1]

Tom, WTC 7 fell after the planes hit. Their explanation was that falling debri somehow caused the building to freefall into itself. Rofl.

I'm just saying, hitting a skyscraper is one thing, flying into a window of the pentagon is another, it's just extremely hard to do (especially for an ammeature pilot) And also, where the hell was NORAD? I mean they can scramble jets to just about anywhere in a matter of minutes, WHY WAS THE PENTAGON UNPROTECTED? NORAD's lack of response to this situation is the biggest red flag imo.

[Bigblue1]

Watch "loose Change: final cut" You will have no Doubt those towers were taken down intentionally. It's as plain as day once you allow yourself to actually think the government does these things.

[tom502]

Yeah, building 7 just falling, and I think it fell before the towers were hit? And the Pentagon, with no plane, just a round hole, and then all the black boxes not found, even for the plane that crashed in the field. It just don't add up.

[Frosted]

Weren't these guys only trained in a single engine plane? There's a whole world of a difference between that and a passenger jet.

[sgreger1]

Not saying it's impossible that they could have hit the towers, but crashign into the pentagon was the real task. Again, not that it's not possible, but would be quite a feat for some dudes fresh out of flight school to crash into the side of the pentagon at those speeds. Whatever flight school they went to is where I would want to go if I wanted to be a pilot.


Even that doesn't seem impossible to me, the only 9/11 conspiracy thing I fully buy into is the WTC building 7 falling. Why would it just collapse? Because of debris falling in it? Yah that doesn't cause a freefall implosion.