fort hood shooting

[RRK]

The FBI's definition is incorrect in my opinion and has more to do with expanding there own jurisdiction.

[sgreger1]

The FBI's definition is incorrect in my opinion and has more to do with expanding there own jurisdiction.

Of course it is. It is a blanket term. Meaning anything can be called terrorism if they so please. An anti-abortion protester killing a Dr. is terrorism. PETA bombing a place that tests on animals is terrorism. A guy shooting up americans because he thinks they are infadels and wants to affect american policy in the middle east... is terrorism.

[cobrageezer]

Acording to the web news the Army has charged this guy with 13 counts of premeditated murder. If found guilty thats a walk to the wall.

[texasmade]

The FBI's definition is incorrect in my opinion and has more to do with expanding there own jurisdiction.

Of course it is. It is a blanket term. Meaning anything can be called terrorism if they so please.

i had a couple of friends that were charged with some terrorism bullshit just for being in a gang and having their bandanas out in a resteraunt

[sgreger1]

i had a couple of friends that were charged with some terrorism bullshit just for being in a gang and having their bandanas out in a resteraunt

Yah that's some BS. This is what I hate about allowing the gov power to use blanket terms, because after a while,a nd after enough blanket terms are in circulation, you could be charged for a crime at any time of the day even if you didn't think you were doing anything wrong. It's so if they want to get you, they can.

[tom502]

I just read that Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down and won't be able to walk again. The problem with this, is he will probably be in prison for years onward, even if he does get death, because they take forver before doing it, this will require a tax paid guard or such to "care" for him, and do whatever help is needed for someone that is paralyzed.

Hmm, what would Kim Jong Il do?

[sgreger1]

I just read that Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down and won't be able to walk again. The problem with this, is he will probably be in prison for years onward, even if he does get death, because they take forver before doing it, this will require a tax paid guard or such to "care" for him, and do whatever help is needed for someone that is paralyzed.

Hmm, what would Kim Jong Il do?

Plus he will get free healthcare in jail.

I love how the media keeps saying thigns like "the shooting BLAMED on Army Major Hasan".

What is this thing with "alleged" and "is being blamed on". The guy was there withthe guns and got shot down by police, is there any question it wasn't him?

[lxskllr]

I just read that Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down and won't be able to walk again. The problem with this, is he will probably be in prison for years onward, even if he does get death, because they take forver before doing it, this will require a tax paid guard or such to "care" for him, and do whatever help is needed for someone that is paralyzed.

Hmm, what would Kim Jong Il do?

Plus he will get free healthcare in jail.

I love how the media keeps saying thigns like "the shooting BLAMED on Army Major Hasan".

What is this thing with "alleged" and "is being blamed on". The guy was there withthe guns and got shot down by police, is there any question it wasn't him?

You're innocent until proven guilty in court. Anything else is 1 more step towards totalitarianism. I'm a little surprised at you sgreger1 ;^)

[sagedil]

Your expecting consistency lxskllr??? You obviously haven't been paying much attention these past few years :wink:

[sgreger1]

I just read that Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down and won't be able to walk again. The problem with this, is he will probably be in prison for years onward, even if he does get death, because they take forver before doing it, this will require a tax paid guard or such to "care" for him, and do whatever help is needed for someone that is paralyzed.

Hmm, what would Kim Jong Il do?

Plus he will get free healthcare in jail.

I love how the media keeps saying thigns like "the shooting BLAMED on Army Major Hasan".

What is this thing with "alleged" and "is being blamed on". The guy was there withthe guns and got shot down by police, is there any question it wasn't him?

You're innocent until proven guilty in court. Anything else is 1 more step towards totalitarianism. I'm a little surprised at you sgreger1 ;^)

Haha, I was waiting for someone to say that. I'm not saying convict him as guilty without a trial, i'm saying they word it in a way so as to make it seem it is "being blamed on" Hasan. We know he did it, report the fact = he was there, shot people and got shot, now in hospital, hundreds of witnesses.

He's not guilty as in "will goto jail", untill he proven guilty in a court, but when reporting on the subject I wish they would call it for what it is. "The guy who shot a bunch of people, as reported by hundreds of eye witnesses and per the official report.


There's a difference between guilty in court and guilty as in everyone seen him do it and there is no question as to whether it was him or not.

[lxskllr]

He's not guilty as in "will goto jail", untill he proven guilty in a court, but when reporting on the subject I wish they would call it for what it is. "The guy who shot a bunch of people, as reported by hundreds of eye witnesses and per the official report.


There's a difference between guilty in court and guilty as in everyone seen him do it and there is no question as to whether it was him or not.

That's a mistrial waiting to happen. If it's all over the news that he shot people, how can he get a fair trial? The jury's decision should only take into account what was heard in court.

Someone, most likely wearing BDUs(as do most people in the military) shot a bunch of fellow soldiers. They caught someone they /think/ committed the crime. It's up to the prosecutor to prove that in court. All soldiers look the same. He could have been in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Maybe he got a weapon out of the locker, and was coming to help. The real killer could still be out there.

[texasmade]

you arent allowed to have your weapons on post near housing

[lxskllr]

you arent allowed to have your weapons on post near housing

I don't know that. Maybe there's a reason there were weapons around. The post commander could have ordered it for some reason.

[texasmade]

im going from what i know military issued weapons arent allowed...now if he had gotten personal weapons on post then thats on him..even though im pretty sure personal firearms arent aloowed on post either..but seeing as how he didnt live on post he could of kept em at his apartment and taken them through the checkpoint since they only do random inspections

[lxskllr]

im going from what i know military issued weapons arent allowed...now if he had gotten personal weapons on post then thats on him..even though im pretty sure personal firearms arent aloowed on post either..but seeing as how he didnt live on post he could of kept em at his apartment and taken them through the checkpoint since they only do random inspections

All I'm saying is it's the prosecutors job to prove his guilt, not news reporters(corporate stooges). There's 10,000,000 reasons why he may not have been the shooter, and it has to be proven in court that it was him.

I would have no problem being on a jury and finding someone not guilty based on the prosecution, even though I personally thought they were guilty. That's how the game's played, and how it MUST be played in a free country.