Pay-By-The-Mile Auto Insurance

[justintempler]

Perhaps you are naive or just havn't paid attention, but everyone is looking for new ways to squeez out money. And having lived in CA most of my life, I wouldn't put anything past them.

Yes I have been paying attention. Everyone is looking for a way to squeeze money out of someone else so they can hang on to their overvalued real estate and continue to buy Saudi Oil with Chinese dollars. Time for a little attitude adjustment. Too many greedy people wanting the other guy to make the sacrifice but not willing to look at himself in the mirror and realize that he's part of the problem.

[sagedil]

I create nothing. I did not do my own research, just responded to what sgreger said.

Maybe that was my mistake?

Yes, everything he said was incorrect.

HE said there would be GPS in the car...No, that is incorrect, has never been part of the discussions.

HE said it would be mandatory. Not even close to the truth.

If he would have taken 2 minutes to research it first, he would have discovered how innocuous t is. and btw, t already s being done in that great Socialist state under control of the liberal........Texas.

Sigh. Why I get so frustrated here reading everyone getting all blown up about stuff that is simply inaccurate. To paraphrase a favorite quote of mine.... you are welcome to whatever opinion you want. you are not welcome to whatever facts you want.

[sgreger1]

I create nothing. I did not do my own research, just responded to what sgreger said.

Maybe that was my mistake?

Yes, everything he said was incorrect.

HE said there would be GPS in the car...No, that is incorrect, has never been part of the discussions.

HE said it would be mandatory. Not even close to the truth.

If he would have taken 2 minutes to research it first, he would have discovered how innocuous t is. and btw, t already s being done in that great Socialist state under control of the liberal........Texas.

Sigh. Why I get so frustrated here reading everyone getting all blown up about stuff that is simply inaccurate. To paraphrase a favorite quote of mine.... you are welcome to whatever opinion you want. you are not welcome to whatever facts you want.

In case you havn't been following it, the concept of using GPS or some other system to monitor mileage for a tax by the mile/insurance by the mile has been floated around in CA as well as other states for some time now. This is not some conspiracy theory.

I didn't say it was mandatory, I said that knowing CA, they prefer mandatory things, and it would not surprise me to see this as mandatory in the future. I never said that all of a sudden it's now mandatory.

and btw, t already s being done in that great Socialist state under control of the liberal........Texas.

As i've said multiple times on this forum, republicans have become just as bad as the liberals nowadays, especially in CA, and now in Texas. They all seem to be pushing the same ideas.

[sgreger1]

Nonsense. The Department of Insurance regulates insurance companies, pure and simple. It could care less about pollution and traffic accidents. The Commissioner issues guidelines all the time - you cannot rationally extrapolate a major political decision from a summary of a single guideline.

It's the first step. Not saying it's a political decision, it is instead part of the growing concept of tax or somehow collecting money from people under the guise of environmentalism.

I don't know about you, but I'm confident that the rest of us already have odometers for that...

Yes, because it is so difficult to adjust the odometer back like so many people do.

"Each year approximately 3 million used cars have their odometers rolled back an average of 30,000 miles. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, odometer fraud throughout the country results in consumer losses of approximately four billion dollars annually."

And even if, for some bizarre reason, every vehicle had a GPS installed, how do we go from that to the government having constant access to all of them? And then taking that access and employing it for routine traffic citations?

This is what happened with red light cameras in AZ. First they allowed the red light cameras, thenthe gov took that an improved on it to where they now have unmarked civilian cars parked on the highways issuing speeding tickets via camera. A repairman who was fixing one of these stations was killed by a local there out of protest for the initiative not so long ago. If you give theman inch, they take a mile.

You seem unreasonably paranoid. Out of curiosity, do you cover your head with aluminum foil when heading outdoors? You know, to prevent the evil government from scanning your thoughts? :wink:

Wow lol. No I am not on that crazy gov mind reading conspiracy bs. I am just tired of everyone floating around the idea of using environmentalism to impose taxes on our houses, cars, businesses etc When cap and trade comes in soon we will see more of this. Everyone is saying "oh, if we tax this it will help the environment by reducing X" and frankly I feel I pay my fair share of taxes as it is. I am glad you are rich enough to not be burdened by additional taxes.


Since when is thinking CA will find new ways to tax you a conspiracy theory? It only happens like every year. Hell just this year alogn they raised the sales tax to just under 10% and doubled the annual registration for vehicles. But surely, anyone who saw that coming was just a conspiracy theorist.