420 Policies and Laws

[Joe234]

Do you know who the main opponent to this was/is............it’s not conservatives.........not the religious right..............instead it is.............wait for it............wait for it..............the medical marijuana industry

It's snus all over again............no promises = we'll get back to you after we talk to the pharmaceutical companies

I heard some were opposing it for driving regulations. I haven't read it myself.
Does anyone have a copy of the driving rules?

[Joe234]

Mexico's new gov to review pot fight after US vote

Nov. 7, 2012 8:35 PM ET

Mexico's new gov to review pot fight after US vote

By MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN and E. EDUARDO CASTILLO, Associated Press


MEXICO CITY (AP) — The legalization of recreational marijuana in the U.S. states of Washington and Colorado will force Mexico to rethink its efforts to halt marijuana smuggling across the border, the main adviser to Mexico's president-elect said Wednesday.

Luis Videgaray, head of incoming President Enrique Pena Nieto's transition team, told Radio Formula that the Mexican administration taking power in three weeks remains opposed to drug legalization. But he said the votes in the two states complicate his country's commitment to quashing the growing and smuggling of a plant now seen by many as legal in part of the U.S.

"Obviously we can't handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status," Videgaray said. "I believe this obliges us to think the relationship in regards to security ... This is an unforeseen element."

Videgaray stopped short of threatening to curtail Mexican enforcement of marijuana laws, but his comments, less than three weeks before Pena Nieto travels to the White House days before taking office, appeared likely to increase pressure on the Obama administration to strictly enforce U.S. federal law, which still forbids recreational pot use.

"These important modifications change somewhat the rules of the game in the relationship with the United States," Videgaray said. "I think that we have to carry out a review of our joint policies in regards to drug trafficking and security in general."
Videgaray will almost certainly be one of the most important figures in Mexico's new administration and he has been central to the planning of the U.S. trip by Pena Nieto planned for Nov. 27. Videgaray said security would obviously be discussed during that trip and he indicated that marijuana legalization would be an important topic.

The Obama administration has said little about how it will handle pot legalization in two states and U.S. officials offered no comment on Videgaray's remarks.

The current Mexican administration has been vehemently opposed to pro-marijuana measures in the U.S., and President Felipe Calderon spoke out against a similar legalization move in California two years ago. Calderon and members of his Cabinet remained silent Wednesday on the U.S. votes.

In other Latin American countries, where cocaine production is dominant, some officials, ordinary citizens and independent experts said they expected little immediate change in U.S. drug policy, but expressed hope that the marijuana votes were the start of a softening in U.S. attitudes toward drug production. Officials with governments in the region that back U.S. policy offered little comment on the Colorado and Washington ballots.

"The fact that two states in the United States have recognized the recreational use of marijuana makes us encouraged about possible changes," said Dionisio Nunez, vice minister of coca in Bolivia, where cultivation of the coca plant — commonly used as a stimulant by local people — is legal but production of cocaine is not.

Government officials in other countries who back U.S. policy offered little comment on the Colorado and Washington ballots.
A former high-ranking official in Mexico's internal intelligence service who has studied the potential effects of legalization measures told The Associated Press that he was optimistic legalization in the two states would damage Mexican drug cartels.
However, the former official, Alejandro Hope, now an analyst at the Mexican Competitiveness Institute, added that a key factor would be the reaction by the U.S. federal government to the votes. A strong federal crackdown on legalized pot could negate all but the smallest effects on Mexico's cartels, he said.

Hope said a flourishing legal pot market in Colorado could reduce Mexican cartels' estimated annual income from roughly $6 billion to about $4.6 billion.

If U.S. states start developing a marijuana industry, "This will not be a super-lucrative business proposition for a criminal enterprise," Hope said. "This will not be a cash cow."

The loss of income to cartels might lead them to branch into other criminal activities at home like kidnapping, Hope said, but he said such crimes were much more difficult to carry out than marijuana smuggling, so he considered that relatively unlikely.
He said he believed it was more likely the loss of income would force cartels to shrink and even cut into their smuggling of other drugs, because they have been using income from marijuana smuggling to pay the costs of other illegal operations, such as bribes to officials.

"It might produce a reduction in cocaine and heroin smuggling if the effect was large enough," Hope said. "... How much, and in what directions, beats me at this point."
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Associated Press writers Isaac Garrido in Mexico City and Carlos Valdez in La Paz, Bolivia, contributed to this report.

[Crow]

[Crow]

Haha! Sure mate! I'll make sure to keep the vaporiser warm

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[Skell18]

If I come to Seattle Crow, can I stay with you?

[Crow]

Thanks dog!

[Snusdog]

All I'm saying is... Don't be a pessimistic dog! Let's give this time!

Bro I really am excited about it and really hope it works.............sorry about coming across as pessimistic............seems I just expect the gov to screw up anything that makes sense...........enough from me..........ya'll enjoy the victory!..........and know the rest of us enjoy it with you

[Crow]

Liquor Board: It will take a year to set up rules for a marijuana sales system

The state Liquor Board is wasting no time getting on board with the newly passed marijuana initiative. Most notably: It will take a full year to create all the rules needed to set up a marijuana sales system in the state.

The Washington State Liquor Control Board (WSLCB) issued the following statement regarding the apparent passage of Initiative 502.

The Washington State Liquor Control Board will move forward to carry out the will of the voters who Tuesday passed Initiative 502.

I-502 establishes precedent for growing, processing, retailing and possessing marijuana. Essentially, a system will be built from the ground up. The initiative provides the WSLCB until December 1, 2013 to craft rules for implementation. We expect that it will take the full year to craft the necessary rules which will provide the framework for the new system. As we develop the rules we will keep in mind our top priority, public safety.

Questions remain ahead as we work to implement I-502. Chief among them is the issue that marijuana remains illegal at the federal level.

A fact sheet about how I-502 affects the WSLCB are posted on the agency website at http://liq.wa.gov

[Skell18]

Reading this thread has really made me want to listen to some Cypress Hill! lol

[Crow]

Do you know who the main opponent to this was/is............it’s not conservatives.........not the religious right..............instead it is.............wait for it............wait for it..............the medical marijuana industry

It's snus all over again............no promises = we'll get back to you after we talk to the pharmaceutical companies

Yes Snusdog, it was the medical marijuana industry. The pharmaceutical industry and the medical cannabis industry have no relation. If anything, they're rivals in the field of medicine.

... and why would they (DOJ) need to consult with Pharma anyways? This issue is not about medicine (that has already been decided and enacted by 17 states -- soon to be 18 states). You would think that the Federal government would have stepped in when Washington, Oregon, and California legalised medical cannabis in the late 90's. Instead, we see that the number of medical cannabis states are increasing each election cycle.

All I'm saying is... Don't be a pessimistic dog! Let's give this time!

[Snusdog]

“We’re having really good conversations, but no promises,” Holmes said Tuesday night."

Do you know who the main opponent to this was/is............it’s not conservatives.........not the religious right..............instead it is.............wait for it............wait for it..............the medical marijuana industry

It's snus all over again............no promises = we'll get back to you after we talk to the pharmaceutical companies

[Skell18]

Sounds like a plan!

Care to invest?

Given how much "tax" starbucks has paid over here its the fast track to millions!! lol

[Crow]

"On election night, Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes said he’d spoken to Durkan on Tuesday and was assured — but not guaranteed — that the federal government “has no plans, except to talk.”

Holmes has said he believes the Justice Department will be reassured by the I-502′s tight regulatory control – no home-grows, sales of no more than an ounce, a ban on sales to people under 21, etc. – and will decide not to sue.

“We’re having really good conversations, but no promises,” Holmes said Tuesday night."

[Crow]

Crow, you need to open a Weedbucks now in conjunction with Starbucks, will make a fortune!! lol

Sounds like a plan!

Care to invest?

[truthwolf1]

Obama's prosecuted marijuana laws more vigorously than Bush ever did. Hail to the chief! or something like that...

There is always that. This really is a reality slap day.