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  • lxskllr
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    Originally posted by Snusdog
    Don't get me wrong crow......I am all for this and really hope it holds up..........If it does it may very well pave the way for the rest of the nation...........I was merely pointing out there are still a couple of potential potholes (get it pot-holes..........) that remain to be straddled

    But for now this is a very big victory
    Obama's prosecuted marijuana laws more vigorously than Bush ever did. Hail to the chief! or something like that...

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  • truthwolf1
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    This is a long awaited huge step forward. Congratulations. This plant could be a boom crop in so many way's and especially in this economy.

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  • Nuusku
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    Gratz

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  • Snusdog
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    Don't get me wrong crow......I am all for this and really hope it holds up..........If it does it may very well pave the way for the rest of the nation...........I was merely pointing out there are still a couple of potential potholes (get it pot-holes..........) that remain to be straddled

    But for now this is a very big victory

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  • Skell18
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    Crow, you need to open a Weedbucks now in conjunction with Starbucks, will make a fortune!! lol

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  • Crow
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    Before I turn in for the night, here are some highlights from tonight's announcement:



    Travel author Rick Steves, an Initiative 502 supporter, celebrates with the crowd at a campaign party Tuesday night at the Hotel Andra in downtown Seattle.



    Natalia Fior of Edmonds waves an I-502 sign as supporters cheer the measure's victory at a campaign party Tuesday in Seattle.



    A 30-year-old female smokes marijuana in a street party after the election results in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood Tuesday.

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  • Crow
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    Originally posted by Joe234
    Legalize all drugs. Rat poison is legal. It's up to the individual to know what is harmful or not.
    Hahaha!

    Joe, where do you go? I always enjoy reading your posts (as craisy as some of them may be at times ).

    Besides you, I'm pretty much the only American liberal/progressive on this forum. Give me a hand here, bud!

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  • Joe234
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    Originally posted by SnusoMatic
    I used to smoke but quit because I can't do anything in moderation. I would not want my kids to smoke either for that matter. But in a nutshell I think if beer is legal I can't understand why pot is not. But why (for real) medical cannabis is not legal beats the snot out of me. My dad has cancer and takes chemo and it is awful on him. I wanted him to try pot and see if it would help. Him being 85 years old breaking the law is just not gonna happen for him. I even considered buying some and giving it to him on the sly without him knowing it. But I worried that I might buy some that was laced with some bs. If he could do it legal I am pretty sure he would try it. Of course the docs hand out all sorts of (real) hard narcotics. The cancer patient gets addicted which is ok but their tolerance grows and soon that don't even help. Then they have to move on up to even stronger stuff and they turn into zombies. I have already told my wife that if i get cancer or what not it's pot for me. If I am going to be strung out I would rather not be a zombie. Sorry for the rant. For the record, I don't think pot, beer, or any other drug is good. But I am not asking for a fuss here. I don't absolutely agree with you but I guess that I am on your side more than I am with the feds. I do feel that if pot were legal there would be less kids using it. I also think there would be less people move on to hard drugs.
    Legalize all drugs. Rat poison is legal. It's up to the individual to know what is harmful or not.

    LEAP | Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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    Current and former members of law enforcement who support drug regulation rather thanprohibition.


    Welcome To LEAP!

    Law Enforcement Against Prohibition is an international organization of criminal justice professionals who bear personal witness to the wasteful futility and harms of our current drug policies. Our experience on the front lines of the “war on drugs” has led us to call for a repeal of prohibition and its replacement with a tight system of legalized regulation, which will effectively cripple the violent cartels and street dealers who control the current illegal market.

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  • Crow
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    Originally posted by Snusdog
    Feds will respond you can have your pot.........or.............federal funding (for things like national parks, highways, education)
    I've heard that argument before... But look at medical cannabis. 17 (no, wait, make that 18) states have legalised it for medicinal use. How did the Feds respond when California legalised medical cannabis back in 1996? They have (for the most part) allowed the states to govern itself when it comes to medicinal cannabis. Keep in mind, this being a substance that the Federal government claims has no medicinal benefit whatsoever despite countless studies that prove otherwise.

    Now, I'm not saying the same will hold true here... But, I believe that the Federal government will leave our state alone when it notices that our legislature can create an effective system of regulation. This is how the First Prohibition (i.e. Alcohol) ended.

    Regardless, this is historical progress. The victories here at home and in Colorado have put cannabis reform in the national spotlight.

    I won't comment on the taxation part since that has more to do with ideology than anything else. Suffice to say, I expect retail to stay competitive in terms of pricing. There may be some fluctuations at the start, but it should stabilise (as I'm beginning to notice since we privatised alcohol last year).

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  • SnusoMatic
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    I used to smoke but quit because I can't do anything in moderation. I would not want my kids to smoke either for that matter. But in a nutshell I think if beer is legal I can't understand why pot is not. But why (for real) medical cannabis is not legal beats the snot out of me. My dad has cancer and takes chemo and it is awful on him. I wanted him to try pot and see if it would help. Him being 85 years old breaking the law is just not gonna happen for him. I even considered buying some and giving it to him on the sly without him knowing it. But I worried that I might buy some that was laced with some bs. If he could do it legal I am pretty sure he would try it. Of course the docs hand out all sorts of (real) hard narcotics. The cancer patient gets addicted which is ok but their tolerance grows and soon that don't even help. Then they have to move on up to even stronger stuff and they turn into zombies. I have already told my wife that if i get cancer or what not it's pot for me. If I am going to be strung out I would rather not be a zombie. Sorry for the rant. For the record, I don't think pot, beer, or any other drug is good. But I am not asking for a fuss here. I don't absolutely agree with you but I guess that I am on your side more than I am with the feds. I do feel that if pot were legal there would be less kids using it. I also think there would be less people move on to hard drugs.

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  • Joe234
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    Originally posted by Crow
    All adults 21 and over

    Now, taking it back with you across state lines is ANOTHER STORY.

    However, if you're a medical cannabis patient; there should be no issue with transport (just make sure you have your authorisation with you at all times).
    No prob for the rest of you taking it across state lines. Fireworks from Washington was easy.

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  • Snusdog
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    Originally posted by Crow
    One ounce of marijuana will be legal as of Dec. 6, and

    the state will begin a year-long process of creating a closed, tightly regulated and heavily taxed market for recreational marijuana sales at state-licensed retail shops.

    Neither state measure affects the federal ban on marijuana, creating a conflict that could potentially be resolved in court.
    That is good news

    The Bold words are why I fear it will never come to past

    Feds will respond you can have your pot.........or.............federal funding (for things like national parks, highways, education)

    Once the doofballs start taxing the hell out of it...........the pot fairies in WA will realize the black market is still cheaper

    and the politicians will have just added a whole new wrinkle of stupidity to the drug wars.

    I hope I am wrong..........tax it lightly for 5 years............wean the folks off of their current suppliers.......current suppliers go out of business................then begin to raise your taxation bringing it in line with Alcohol tax............otherwise......everyone goes back to current sources

    Regardless, we have done this before.................it was called the Whisky Rebellion.............

    Long live the Mingo Creek Association

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  • Crow
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    Originally posted by Joe234
    Can out of staters buy the weed in Washington?

    Not too far

    I do have medical but I'm looking out for my friends.
    All adults 21 and over

    Now, taking it back with you across state lines is ANOTHER STORY.

    However, if you're a medical cannabis patient; there should be no issue with transport (just make sure you have your authorisation with you at all times).

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  • Joe234
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    Can out of staters buy the weed in Washington?

    Not too far

    I do have medical but I'm looking out for my friends.

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  • Crow
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    Seattle Times: "Voters approve I-502 legalizing marijuana"

    Washington state voters made history Tuesday by legalizing the recreational use of marijuana.

    Washington enthusiastically leapt into history Tuesday, becoming the first state, with Colorado, to reject federal drug-control policy and legalize recreational marijuana use.

    Initiative 502 was winning 56 to 44 percent, thanks to overwhelming support from King County, and more modest support from at least a dozen counties, rural and urban.

    Washington joined Colorado, where a similar legalization measure passed. As the vote counts rolled in at I-502's election-night party in Seattle, crowds burst into cheers.

    "I'm going to go ahead and give my victory speech right now. After this I can go sit down and stop shaking," said Alison Holcomb, I-502's campaign manager and primary architect.

    "Today the state of Washington looked at 75 years of national marijuana prohibition and said it is time for a new approach."

    The vote puts Washington to the left of the Netherlands on marijuana law. As of Dec. 6, it will no longer be illegal for adults 21 and over to possess an ounce of marijuana. A new "drugged driving" law for marijuana impairment also kicks in then.
    Continued...

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